Lighten Up On Snyder

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Spence

Is this a joke? Snyder is a terrible owner. He doesn't seem like a good person to me, but what I care about his what he does as owner of the Redskins and what he does sucks.

We can debate his running of the franchise (I don't agree that he's a "terrible" owner), but not so sure why he's not a good person?

The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

We can debate his running of the franchise (I don't agree that he's a "terrible" owner), but not so sure why he's not a good person?

The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)

WE FOUND ANOTHER ONE!!!


...Any good person would want the Redskins to win by any means...not just financial.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

WE FOUND ANOTHER ONE!!!


...Any good person would want the Redskins to win by any means...not just financial.

If I remember my history correctly, didn't some folks up in the Salem area back in 1692 or so do something similar to what's been going here with Snyder this week?

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

If I remember my history correctly, didn't some folks up in the Salem area back in 1692 or so do something similar to what's been going here with Snyder this week?

No. People in Salem were accused of crimes they did not commit and killed for them. That's actually nothing like what is happening with Snyder.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Spence

No. People in Salem were accused of crimes they did not commit and killed for them. That's actually nothing like what is happening with Snyder.

This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

- Hired Gibbs and gave him total control of the franchise? I'm sure you were against that.
- Hired Zorn, kept Blache and most of coaching staff intact? When the Skins were 6-2 last year I'm sure you had no problem with that.
- Player acquisitions and draft I'd say not terrible, not great. But this falls on Cerrato. He's only had complete control and accountability for less than two years.

Snyder isn't the fault of the recent troubles. He's an easy target for guys with blogs to write stuff trashing Snyder and get web-hits from it. It's good business, right?

I'm all for a GM, if it's Holmgren right now, it makes sense. But for God sakes can we get further down the path of this season before we're tying people to the stake or throwing them in a lake.

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

If you really think that being accused of incompetence after a decade of .455 football is akin to being burned at the stake, then I think we've exhausted the possibilities of this conversation.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

- Hired Gibbs and gave him total control of the franchise? I'm sure you were against that.
- Hired Zorn, kept Blache and most of coaching staff intact? When the Skins were 6-2 last year I'm sure you had no problem with that.
- Player acquisitions and draft I'd say not terrible, not great. But this falls on Cerrato. He's only had complete control and accountability for less than two years.

Snyder isn't the fault of the recent troubles. He's an easy target for guys with blogs to write stuff trashing Snyder and get web-hits from it. It's good business, right?

I'm all for a GM, if it's Holmgren right now, it makes sense. But for God sakes can we get further down the path of this season before we're tying people to the stake or throwing them in a lake.

Actually in that area it would be easier to throw him in a river then a lake.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Actually in that area it would be easier to drown him in a river then a lake.

Neither will do...

He doesn't die that way....he has yet to drown in all the money Redskins fans have been throwing at him.

[beemnsevenspop]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

This is exactly what's happening. What crimes has Snyder committed? Again without replaying the Norv/Marty/Spurrier tune.

Hired Gibbs and gave him total control of the franchise? I'm sure you were against that.
- Hired Zorn, kept Blache and most of coaching staff intact? When the Skins were 6-2 last year I'm sure you had no problem with that.
- Player acquisitions and draft I'd say not terrible, not great. But this falls on Cerrato. He's only had complete control and accountability for less than two years.
Snyder isn't the fault of the recent troubles. He's an easy target for guys with blogs to write stuff trashing Snyder and get web-hits from it. It's good business, right?

I'm all for a GM, if it's Holmgren right now, it makes sense. But for God sakes can we get further down the path of this season before we're tying people to the stake or throwing them in a lake.

ANY and ALL 'Skins fans felt that hiring Gibbs was a brilliant move - UNTIL his four-year record turned out to be 30-34 - (Blasphemous admission forthcoming): personally, I was glad he left a year early, 2 playoff years notwithstanding; the game had clearly passed him by, despite his hall of fame enshrinement...

Yeah, 6-2 was great, but it's a SIXTEEN GAME season - 8-8, ain't so great....unless you are a fan of abject mediocrity...

Player acquisitions "Not so great"????? Oh, PUH-LEEZE!!!!! But since you put the blame on "My Cousin Vinny", just who do you think bears (but has abdicated thus far) the responsibility to kick his fanny to the curb?

Cerrato in control for two years? BULL S***! His fingers have been in the 'Skins pie for NINE years - and if he thought Jeff George were still available for a first-round pick today, you could kiss that pick adios.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Spence

No. People in Salem were accused of crimes they did not commit and killed for them. That's actually nothing like what is happening with Snyder.

Also the people in Salem were falsely tried for being Supernatural Demons...there's nothing false in that same accuastion for Snyder.

[Spence]

Well, I can see I'm not going to change any minds today. Thanks for the back-and-forth, Skins fans. I'm sure we'll continue this conversation [and begin others] later. Have a good one.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

Also the people in Salem were falsely tried for being Supernatural Demons...there's nothing false in that same accuastion for Snyder.

Good one

[Spence]

Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

We can debate his running of the franchise (I don't agree that he's a "terrible" owner), but not so sure why he's not a good person?

The Dan Snyder You Don't Know - Sports (washingtonian.com)

For every Washingtonian puff piece, I can find several articles about what a twerp Snyder is. If you're cool with $30 to park at FedEx Field and high ticket prices for a poor product, that's your business. I'm not cool with it. Diff'rent strokes and all.

[Skinny Tee]

Originally Posted by Spence

For every Washingtonian puff piece, I can find several articles about what a twerp Snyder is. If you're cool with $30 to park at FedEx Field and high ticket prices for a poor product, that's your business. I'm not cool with it. Diff'rent strokes and all.

I agree...

It's more about actions than words for me...

You can tell the entire focus for the Redskins is money-centric. From high priced parking passes, to the $17 combo meals at Johnny Rockets, to only team who has charged admission to training camp, to always signing the biggest free agent contracts in NFL history at all positions.


Bottom line is this team's focus is the money and not the trophy.

[Slingin Sammy 33]

Originally Posted by Spence

For every Washingtonian puff piece, I can find several articles about what a twerp Snyder is. If you're cool with $30 to park at FedEx Field and high ticket prices for a poor product, that's your business. I'm not cool with it. Diff'rent strokes and all.

I'm pretty sure most of the "twerp" articles would be around his business dealings. Business is business, not personal.

If you're not cool with the parking/ticket prices, team's performance, etc. Don't go, don't watch, no one's holding a gun to your head. No one complains when Snyder strokes massive checks, flys the team to ST's funeral, and supports the players families.

Without revenue Snyder continues to bring in, we will at some point be limited in our options financially. I don't think any of us want that. With the salary cap possibly going away, I'd say it's a lot better to in the Redskins position than the Bengals or Jags. If the salary cap goes away, you negative types will be singing a much different tune. Don't forget the team that JKC built was without a salary cap.