Gray, Smith likely interim coach choices

JoeRedskin · 10-13-2009, 01:43 PM

It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

SmootSmack · 10-13-2009, 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

You're with me!

The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

What we really need is more restraint. I think Snyder (and I mentioned this in another thread) will do whatever it takes to get whoever he wants, Vinny wants, Zorn wants, Blache wants, Bugel wants, Gibbs wants, Saunders wants, and so on. And to an extent that's great, you want an owner who will not hesitate to get you what you need.

At the same time though, someone has to be the "dad" here and be the disciplinarian. Then maybe this time next year we wouldn't be wondering how come Campbell, Duckett, Taylor, and Lloyd aren't here anymore...and neither are a first, second, three thirds, and fourth and a sixth

JoeRedskin · 10-13-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

I recognize there is some favoritism by owners. I mean, they spend millions of dollars on these teams and one of the perks seems to be hanging with the players. It just seems that, with DS, some of the players are given elevated status b/c they have the ear of the owner (clearly, this was also true of M. Vick). I suppose I would not be surprised that other owners have their "favorites" who coaches must treat differently for fear of the owner. Are there also owners (other than Crazy Al in Oakland) who are also play "unfavorites" the way Danny does?

SmootSmack · 10-13-2009, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

I recognize there is some favoritism by owners. I mean, they spend millions of dollars on these teams and one of the perks seems to be hanging with the players. It just seems that, with DS, some of the players are given elevated status b/c they have the ear of the owner (clearly, this was also true of M. Vick). I suppose I would not be surprised that other owners have their "favorites" who coaches must treat differently for fear of the owner. Are there also owners (other than Crazy Al in Oakland) who are also play "unfavorites" the way Danny does?

What do you mean?

GTripp0012 · 10-13-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You're with me!

The favoritism element is not exclusive to the Redskins. So I don't expect that would change.

What we really need is more restraint. I think Snyder (and I mentioned this in another thread) will do whatever it takes to get whoever he wants, Vinny wants, Zorn wants, Blache wants, Bugel wants, Gibbs wants, Saunders wants, and so on. And to an extent that's great, you want an owner who will not hesitate to get you what you need.

At the same time though, someone has to be the "dad" here and be the disciplinarian. Then maybe this time next year we wouldn't be wondering how come Campbell, Duckett, Taylor, and Lloyd aren't here anymore...and neither are a first, second, three thirds, and fourth and a sixth

That, and I was wondering: the reports that Snyder was livid after the game might be erroneous, and they might not be, but why? Why the heck is the owner livid? Because we gave up a 15 point 3rd quarter lead to a bad team under a coach who had been, historically, very good at holding leads?

If the owner is going to be involved, he needs to be completely emotionless and detacted from outcomes. It's right for the coaches to be livid, the fans to be livid, even the G.M. for a few minutes before getting back to work. The owner can not be so attached to winning and losing without compromising his decision making. And given the quality of Snyder's decision making over the years, I'd argue he's been quite compromised.

A good owner responds to winning and losing exactly the same way, by trying to make his investment better in the long-run. Snyder of all people should not be riding the emotional roller coaster of the season. At the end of the day, that's Jerry Jones' biggest flaw.

JoeRedskin · 10-13-2009, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

A good owner responds to winning and losing exactly the same way, by trying to make his investment better in the long-run. Snyder of all people should not be riding the emotional roller coaster of the season. At the end of the day, that's Jerry Jones' biggest flaw.

Exactly! Well put.

Monkeydad · 10-13-2009, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine.

It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys."

Obviously, Snyder would never go for that.

The new coach would be fired.

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JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Gray, Smith likely interim coach choices It's not Snyder's football acumen that I detest - I am with Smoot (I think) in that I believe our talent aquisition has not been that bad with the glaring example of the OLine. It's Snyder's favoritism and pettiness that I think muddle the pie. If I'm the new coach, I would say - "Mr. Snyder, if I find my guys hanging out with you, calling you, or in any way interacting with you in a way I have not approved, I will cut them. Then you can pal around with them all you like. I don't care if its the QB you personally recruited during the FA signing period. Consider it a 'non-fraternization policy'. You want to speak to the team on occasion - hey fine as long as it is to the ENTIRE team and not just one or two guys." Obviously, Snyder would never go for that. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

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