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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
I should say TD is a very, very good coach, but I just don't give him too much credit for his Indi SB. My god, Peyton Manning should be in contention every year for a SB which he has been. TD turned around the Bucs no doubt he just never got the offense straight.
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
I like Jeff Fisher. Great coach, better person. But that doesn't mean I want him here. I don't understand why we keep complaining that Snyder just goes after the big names...and then just talk about bringing in big names.
What we should do is find the next great coach (and it's not Zorn it seems). Maybe it's Brian Schottenheimer, maybe it's Jeremy Bates, maybe it's Kyle Shanahan, maybe it's Pete Carmichael, maybe it's Darell Bevell, maybe it's Rob Ryan...and so on The danger of course is that it could backfire completely, but at this point why not take that chance?
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1. What big name coach (with a winning record, SB appearance/ring on their resume as HC) has Snyder brought? 2. Didn't we already take a chance on Zorn?
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
SFREDSKINS, here's an argument you can use against Fisher that might work better...
Tennessee Titans coach Jeff Fisher wears Indianapolis Colts Peyton Manning jersey at charity event - ESPN
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
Zorn was an odd chance to take. A 55 year old with no play calling experience. Meanwhile Kyle Shanahan is 29 years old and has been calling plays for a couple of years now
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
How many head coaches have there been the last 16 years? And how many of those have won Super Bowls
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Spot on.
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
It doesn't make sense to qualify Shanahan's Super Bowl victories on the basis of John Elway's starting QB role without similarly qualifying Tony Dungy's Super Bowl victory on the basis of Peyton Manning's starting QB role.
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None of these coaches were successful in their first stints. You're right - patience is required but there may be something to be said for hiring a coach who knows how to manage a game and build a team. Even if he doesn't bring championships, maybe as Dungy did in TBay, they can set the stage for further success. BUT - for the record - I am with the "First GM, then HC" crowd. I just think a new GM should not discount those with HC exp. just b/c they didn't win a gazillion SB's in their first stint.
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
I don't understand the original post and the reference to Cowher -- and spoecifically the statement about what's he done in 14 years at Pittsburgh. A lot, actually. He's had great teams, won a SB, and not with big name, flashy guys, but blue collar workhorses (kind of like the old Redskins teams). Pittsburgh never goes crazy in free agency, they seem to have managed the cap well, and he's done with while grooming a group of excellent young coaches (Tomlin, Whisenhunt, Grimm) -- and it takes good coaching all around to win. Most of the great head coaches had great assistants, and Cowher knows how to develop them. Plus, I wouldn't mind a head coach with some fire.
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Re: Here's our chance for Jeff Fisher
Fischer is a proven guy and is very well respected around the league. He's working for the cheapest owner in the NFL. If he's fired he'd be my 1st choice.
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