Randle El Fair Catches His Way to the Bench

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

I think it's clear that Zorn is just not the kind of a leader a football team needs. Too much internal conflict and everyone talking to the media. There is a clear lack of discipline and that starts with the HC.

It seems like you think the Skins are structured like a regular team with the HC in charge and his word is law, it isnt. Zorn never was in charge of the team, DS is. That's the reason for the lack of discipline & conflicts. The players know the HC isnt in charge and has no power so they know they can do what they want without repurcussions, as long as they are buddies with DS. The team will continue to be a mess as long as the HC is powerless and a select few star players only answer to the owner.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

It seems like you think the Skins are structured like a regular team with the HC in charge and his word is law, it isnt. Zorn never was in charge of the team, DS is. That's the reason for the lack of discipline & conflicts. The players know the HC isnt in charge and has no power so they know they can do what they want without repurcussions, as long as they are buddies with DS. The team will continue to be a mess as long as the HC is powerless and a select few star players only answer to the owner.

You know this is true....how?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Hog1

You know this is true....how?

Uh, by watching. Its not difficult to see. The organization has undermined Zorn's authority almost from the minute he came onboard as HC.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

Uh, by watching. Its not difficult to see. The organization has undermined Zorn's authority almost from the minute he came onboard as HC.

Exactly what are you "watching" that serves as first hand knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes of this Mega-corp.
It's not hard to speculate
It's not hard to assume
It's not hard to hyperbole
Actual....good info is another matter.
I have NO problem hanging DS's ass out to dry for his product on the field. It IS his team.
Beyond that I have read nothing on this site that makes me think anybody here has first hand info of all the speculated BS going on behind the scenes.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Hog1

Exactly what are you "watching" that serves as first hand knowledge of what is happening behind the scenes of this Mega-corp.
It's not hard to speculate
It's not hard to assume
It's not hard to hyperbole
Actual....good info is another matter.
I have NO problem hanging DS's ass out to dry for his product on the field. It IS his team.
Beyond that I have read nothing on this site that makes me think anybody here has first hand info of all the speculated BS going on behind the scenes.

Thanks for the insight.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by irish

Thanks for the insight.

Glad to do it.......

[CRedskinsRule]

Originally Posted by irish

Uh, by watching. Its not difficult to see. The organization has undermined Zorn's authority almost from the minute he came onboard as HC.

How? I will grant you that for this season, but how did they undermine him last season???

[irish]

Originally Posted by CRedskinsRule

How? I will grant you that for this season, but how did they undermine him last season???

The whole Portis thing. The organization was mute when they should have publically made it clear that that kind of talk by a player isnt acceptable.

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by irish

It seems like you think the Skins are structured like a regular team with the HC in charge and his word is law, it isnt. Zorn never was in charge of the team, DS is. That's the reason for the lack of discipline & conflicts. The players know the HC isnt in charge and has no power so they know they can do what they want without repurcussions, as long as they are buddies with DS. The team will continue to be a mess as long as the HC is powerless and a select few star players only answer to the owner.

I think that is part of it, but the other part is that Zorn let way to much time go by before he took any responsibility, publicly, for the teams performance. Blanche finally had to do it before Zorn got a clue. Constantly calling out players for "not executing" and not putting the blame on your self (like Gibbs did) wore on the players. It had to, it wore on me. If you can't criticize yourself, you shouldn't criticize your players... unless you have earned the right by consistenly winning.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

It seems like you think the Skins are structured like a regular team with the HC in charge and his word is law, it isnt. Zorn never was in charge of the team, DS is. That's the reason for the lack of discipline & conflicts. The players know the HC isnt in charge and has no power so they know they can do what they want without repurcussions, as long as they are buddies with DS. The team will continue to be a mess as long as the HC is powerless and a select few star players only answer to the owner.

Zorn under any circumstance just isn't a strong leader.

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Zorn under any circumstance just isn't a strong leader.

I totally agree. However, DS and VC dont seem to give any indication of wanting a strong leader.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by irish

I totally agree. However, DS and VC dont seem to give any indication of wanting a strong leader.

Gibbs?

[irish]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Gibbs?

I think Gibbs is almost in a category by himself because of the way DS idolizes him. DS would have never done anything to usurp Gibbs authority which strenghtened Gibbs leadership position.

If they wanted a strong leader then why didnt they hire one when Gibbs left?

[GoSkins!]

Originally Posted by irish

I think Gibbs is almost in a category by himself because of the way DS idolizes him. DS would have never done anything to usurp Gibbs authority which strenghtened Gibbs leadership position.

If they wanted a strong leader then why didnt they hire one when Gibbs left?

availability.