Campbell Comparables

[freddyg12]

I thought JC had his best game in weeks on sunday. A few times in the first half he had his head down while moving in the pocket. They even commented on it in the booth. But he was under crazy pressure. He settled down & made some nice plays. His accuracy was about as good as it's been all year.

I'm not expecting much, but if Buges et al can keep the fire lit under the o line like they did in the 2nd half sunday, I think JC will play well. I was very impressed w/him sunday, he showed a lot of heart & poise to play the way he did after getting sacked 5 times.

I wonder if the new o line w/Jones at Lt, Heyer at RT will be an improvement?

[44Deezel]

Originally Posted by freddyg12

I thought JC had his best game in weeks on sunday. A few times in the first half he had his head down while moving in the pocket. They even commented on it in the booth. But he was under crazy pressure. He settled down & made some nice plays. His accuracy was about as good as it's been all year.

I'm not expecting much, but if Buges et al can keep the fire lit under the o line like they did in the 2nd half sunday, I think JC will play well. I was very impressed w/him sunday, he showed a lot of heart & poise to play the way he did after getting sacked 5 times.

I wonder if the new o line w/Jones at Lt, Heyer at RT will be an improvement?

I did too. I was impressed. It's hard to criticize him when he's getting pummeled the way he is, BUT he wasn't under duress the first 4 games of the season. It wasn't until Samuels went down that the line broke-down completely. In terms of sacks, he was in the bottom third of all starters after 4 games. And even during the 6-2 start last year, when the running game was best in the league, and he was getting ample time he only threw 8 TDs (16 TD pace).

The names on GTRIPPs list, Elway, Jaworski, Big Ben, Simms, etc. may have have performed comparably when they had similar sack totals, but what they did in other years was vastly better than Campbell has shown himself capable of. But I know there are other factors like coaching, wide receivers, systems, etc. Maybe he's been permanently damaged by the Skins, maybe he'll do well with another team, maybe he's just average no matter what the circumstances. We may never know.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 44Deezel

The names on GTRIPPs list, Elway, Jaworski, Big Ben, Simms, etc. may have have performed comparably when they had similar sack totals, but what they did in other years was vastly better than Campbell has shown himself capable of. But I know there are other factors like coaching, wide receivers, systems, etc. Maybe he's been permanently damaged by the Skins, maybe he'll do well with another team, maybe he's just average no matter what the circumstances. We may never know.

Well, you're right. They have (with the exception of Carr). But a lot of them hadn't prior to the high sack season.

The main point of starting this thread was to pose the question: what can we do as a team to get more out of our quarterback position? The Pittsburgh comparison is really close because that's a team that lost Faneca and had a poor offensive line for basically a 16-game season, and Roethlisberger played skittish and inconsistent all year.

Right now, Ben's damn near 70% completion and he's getting good protection from his line. He's having an MVP type season. Admittedly, their OL is much younger than ours is, but it's 4 of the same 5 guys who played last year when they struggled. Zorn and Arians run similar schemes, although I certainly don't feel they are equals.

The Steelers had a really bad offense last year, and got it fixed in one offseason (plus a postseason). I'm not even suggesting that the Redskins should even attempt to fix this crap in a single offseason, but my question is: what would we have to do to get a similar result?