How About Jermon Bushrod for a Second Rounder

[MTK]

If we did go after him, I definitely would put him at RT. If you can't let your LT lock up one on one consistently with the top pass rushers in this league, you've got a problem.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If we did go after him, I definitely would put him at RT. If you can't let your LT lock up one on one consistently with the top pass rushers in this league, you've got a problem.

I agree with your posts in this thread; Bushrod could even barely handle Freeney (with the foot injury) in the Super Bowl game.. I would prefer to spend the 2nd pick on Charles Brown or whoever else is available..

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I agree with your posts in this thread; Bushrod could even barely handle Freeney (with the foot injury) in the Super Bowl game.. I would prefer to spend the 2nd pick on Charles Brown or whoever else is available..

In all fairness, getting beat by Freeney and Ware doesn't mean you are a bum. I seem to remember those guys beating Samuels at least once a game.

If I was to bet on it, I would think that the top pass rushers will make Brown, Okung, Davis and any other rookie look bad out of the gate.

[GridIron26]

Originally Posted by Pocket$ $traight

In all fairness, getting beat by Freeney and Ware doesn't mean you are a bum. I seem to remember those guys beating Samuels at least once a game.

If I was to bet on it, I would think that the top pass rushers will make Brown, Okung, Davis and any other rookie look bad out of the gate.

True true.. However, that's why I added the foot injury part.. If Freeney was healthy, then maybe it would be different story for me.. I just don't believe we should spend our 2nd pick on a LT who already showed he can't handle all pass rushers, right when we have an opportunity to draft a T who have lot of potentials to stop all (or most) pass rushers..

Although I can't help but wonder why Saints are trying to shopping him around? Why wouldn't they want to keep him as back-up, just in case if Jammall Brown or RT (I don't remember who) goes down?

[Pocket$ $traight]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

True true.. However, that's why I added the foot injury part.. If Freeney was healthy, then maybe it would be different story for me.. I just don't believe we should spend our 2nd pick on a LT who already showed he can't handle all pass rushers, right when we have an opportunity to draft a T who have lot of potentials to stop all (or most) pass rushers..

Although I can't help but wonder why Saints are trying to shopping him around? Why wouldn't they want to keep him as back-up, just in case if Jammall Brown or RT (I don't remember who) goes down?

I would rather keep the 2nd pick too.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by GridIron26

I agree with your posts in this thread; Bushrod could even barely handle Freeney (with the foot injury) in the Super Bowl game.. I would prefer to spend the 2nd pick on Charles Brown or whoever else is available..

There will be value in the second round if we're looking at acquiring another lineman at that spot. Allen won't be long on trading away draft choices when we could get value where we are and wouldn't have to surrender a draft pick for another teams player. The days of trading away draft pick could be history.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

There will be value in the second round if we're looking at acquiring another lineman at that spot. Allen won't be long on trading away draft choices when we could get value where we are and wouldn't have to surrender a draft pick for another teams player. The days of trading away draft pick could be history.

Yeah, but what if we could get a left tackle with a second round tender draft choice in 2011, and a right tackle with our current draft choice.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

Yeah, but what if we could get a left tackle with a second round tender draft choice in 2011, and a right tackle with our current draft choice.

So much about 2011 is still uncertain yet, and a 2nd round tender for Bushrod would not be conditional unless a deal was consumated to that effect. Anything less than an arranged agreement would require a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft. If it's linemen we'll be lookinfg for in 2011 there may be a better player than Bushrod available to us at that time. I've just never been one in favor of trading away draft picks, they're the closest thing to gold in today's NFL.

[T.O.Killa]

Originally Posted by Longtimefan

So much about 2011 is still uncertain yet, and a 2nd round tender for Bushrod would not be conditional unless a deal was consumated to that effect. Anything less than an arranged agreement would require a 2nd rounder in the 2010 draft. If it's linemen we'll be lookinfg for in 2011 there may be a better player than Bushrod available to us at that time. I've just never been one in favor of trading away draft picks, they're the closest thing to gold in today's NFL.

That is not the way I understand it. It would be a 2011 pick, if we took one of those guys, after the draft.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by T.O.Killa

That is not the way I understand it. It would be a 2011 pick, if we took one of those guys, after the draft.

This In Accordance To The Rules Of The Collective Bargaining Agreement:

Reference: Compensation RFA Tenders

A restricted free agent can negotiate with any club through a certain date. If the RFA accepts an offer sheet from a new club, his old club has a "right of first refusal"...a seven day period in which it may match the offer and retain him, or choose not to match the offer in which case it may recieve one or more draft picks "from the upcoming draft" from the players new club. If an offer sheet is not executed the players rights revert back to his old club the day after negotiations must end.

That does not mean that a deal cannot be consumated requiring any combination of players in exchange, but such deal must be worked out in advance between the two parties.

[Mechanix544]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

If we did go after him, I definitely would put him at RT. If you can't let your LT lock up one on one consistently with the top pass rushers in this league, you've got a problem.

That is a 101% true statement. You have to have more faith in your LT than any other position on the field. This guy would fit in as a candidate to compete with whatever rookie we draft after Okung for the starting RT position, and with Dockery and Rabach, and bring in Sims over from Seattle, and you have yourself a very quality offensive line. I am sure whoever is behind center this year will be better protected, no matter who we bring in this year. Shanny always has good lines.