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For just one example: the US spends more money on its military than the rest of the world COMBINED. No one can challenge us militarily because we outspend the entire rest of the planet. If we took some of that money which is far overspent on the military, and used it to build clinics and schools in desperately poor countries, a lot of people would like us a lot more.
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Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
the ghost of Reagan haunts you
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Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
I'd pull all of the troops and bases out of foreign countries. That would save some money. I'd cut social spending too.
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Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
So where would your savings in to?
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Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
I'd put my money in my own coffers, not the governments.
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Re: Texas wants to rewrite the US History books
Well we don't live in fear of another country invading us. I don't have a problem with military spending because it keeps us safe but I do agree that we could make cuts in the programs. Remember alot of that money is used on technology that helps save lives when we are at war.
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I feel like we could make some cuts with out endangering our troops if we didn't have so many bases around the entire world. |
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Dude name me a war where our interests were truly at stake? And by that I mean interests of the nation as a whole, not the moneyed elites. American Revolution The Big Break from England. War of 1812 Never would have happened if we hadn't invaded Canada. Spanish American War First war started under a false pretext(USS Maine was mined by the Spanish) later found out to that the explosion was caused because one of the powder rooms was next to the boiler, but we get the Phillipines and Cuba out of the deal. World War I The war where Western Civ blew its collective brains out. Had nothing to do with the United States. A bunch of jealous cousins use a spat between the Hapsburgs and Serbia to jockey to redraw boundaries of their respective empires and set the stage for both facism and communism. World War II The only war where our nation was truly attacked and face a true double pronged threat to its liberty and security, but would have never happened if we didn't butt into World War I. Korea Commies trying to unite Korea under one banner, but it was set up mostly by American naivete of Stalin's intentions and Dean Acheson's omission of S Korea from the newly formed Pacific Defense Perimeter at the beginning of the Cold War. The North took this as a sign that we didn't care so they invaded with Russian/Chinese help. 3 years later we have over 25,000 dead and many more wounded, and the treaty line was at the 38th parallel, right where the border was before it all started. All could have been avoided if Acheson would have said touch S Korea and we will kick your ass!! Vietnam Civil war like Korea, where many signed up with the commies, who were the best organized, and had a plan to unify Vietnam. S Vietnam was corrupt and the nation falling wouldn't have really impacted us at all. Most of SE Asia fell anyway(except Thailand) and we weren't screwed at all. 58,000 dead for a 8 year war though. A total waste Gulf War I Ambassador April Glaspie tells Saddam that we don't care about intra Arab squabbling when he asks her point blank what the US would do if he took the N Kuwaiti oilfields by force, as his cash strapped nation needed revenue and the Kuwaitis were slant drilling into Iraq. Biggest setup in modern history. Saddam is of course demonized, since he is a brutal dictator(who cares we had no problem with him being a sadistic pig from 1978-1990 as he was our boy against the crazies in Iran) Gulf War II Biggest waste of national treasure and blood since World War I in my book. At least in WW II you had bad guys that could attack us. Koreae and Vietnam you could make a valid case about them being wars against communism, but this one was 100% based on lies or exaggerations. Afghanistan Supposedly was all about nailing the Taliban and bin Laden, but not sure we needed to trash the country. But of course, as in Iraq it quickly turned into another joke of nation building. |
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I don't have a problem with having a strong military per se, I have problems with the overkill. We could cut our enormous military budget in half and still far outspend, and thus be stronger than, any other country. There are so many other things that we can do with that money.
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Personally I'm in the middle when it comes to your argument. I think this country is the land of opportunity (hence why my family came here) and there is a lot of good that we do for the world. However, I think this country has done its share of bad things and one of the worst thing that a country can do is to dismiss their wrongdoings. People in the left love to complain about our country, yet they don't realize that we are lucky to live in a country where you can freely do so. And people on the right need to realize that it is OK to complain about your country, and that in a democracy it is not only permissible to question our leaders it's our responsibility.
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