Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike

SmootSmack · 03-25-2010, 05:13 PM

Santana Moss Is 'Just Thrilled' About His New Coaches

GMScud · 03-25-2010, 05:28 PM

The more interviews I'm reading/hearing with players since Shanahan came in- a lot of the comments... man you can really tell just how deeply in over his head Zorn was.

I listened to interviews with Kedric Golston and Lorenzo Alexander yesterday on The John Thompson show, and they both at times prefaced statements with "no disrespect to Coach Zorn, BUT..."

I mean listen to what Santana said- it's a new thing to be held accountable for being late! Sheesh.

Anyway, it looks like we're in very good hands with Shanahan. That certainly seems to be a central theme.

SmootSmack · 03-25-2010, 05:38 PM

I think the bigger problem was really Cerrato, putting aside all the personnel issues, Cerrato just wasn't suited to be the main guy leading the organization. Just all the internal daily management of the staff was a mess the past two years. Seems to be more structure now and that trickles down to the players on the field...but still, it's only March

tryfuhl · 03-25-2010, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

The more interviews I'm reading/hearing with players since Shanahan came in- a lot of the comments... man you can really tell just how deeply in over his head Zorn was.

I listened to interviews with Kedric Golston and Lorenzo Alexander yesterday on The John Thompson show, and they both at times prefaced statements with "no disrespect to Coach Zorn, BUT..."

I mean listen to what Santana said- it's a new thing to be held accountable for being late! Sheesh.

Anyway, it looks like we're in very good hands with Shanahan. That certainly seems to be a central theme.

No doubt, seems to be a lot of love for Ray Wright too. Orakpo said some good things about the program and how it was basically a free-for-all last year like Edwin Williams mentioned. Cool that he offered to work Phillip Daniels' powerlifting into his routine too.

GMScud · 03-25-2010, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the bigger problem was really Cerrato, putting aside all the personnel issues, Cerrato just wasn't suited to be the main guy leading the organization. Just all the internal daily management of the staff was a mess the past two years. Seems to be more structure now and that trickles down to the players on the field...but still, it's only March

I agree that Cerrato was the biggest of all problems. The consensus seems to be that sweeping administrative change was necessary as soon as Allen stepped in.

tryfuhl · 03-25-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the bigger problem was really Cerrato, putting aside all the personnel issues, Cerrato just wasn't suited to be the main guy leading the organization. Just all the internal daily management of the staff was a mess the past two years. Seems to be more structure now and that trickles down to the players on the field...but still, it's only March

No doubt, the accountability aspect is important. It was cool to hear that you have to be on time for your training sessions and whatnot and can't just jump in whenever.

McD5 · 03-25-2010, 06:00 PM

A professional organization. What a nice change.

53Fan · 03-25-2010, 06:00 PM

"When you have someone that's here but he can't say this-or-that and do this-and-that. You get what we had." Vinny was definitely a big part of the problem. Working under Vinny was no piece of cake.

mlmdub130 · 03-25-2010, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I think the bigger problem was really Cerrato, putting aside all the personnel issues, Cerrato just wasn't suited to be the main guy leading the organization. Just all the internal daily management of the staff was a mess the past two years. Seems to be more structure now and that trickles down to the players on the field...but still, it's only March

should be your new sig

MTK · 03-25-2010, 07:01 PM

Hard to find anyone that's not happy with the changes so far. And really how could they not be thrilled to have a professional regime in place from the top down.

rbanerjee23 · 03-25-2010, 07:43 PM

Wow as a Zorn supporter I am really disheartened to hear about the way he handled the team...it explains a lot in terms of the lack of discipline and players not doing the little things like Moss pointed out.

CultBrennan59 · 03-25-2010, 07:51 PM

I feel like Zorn was being laid back to earn the respect of players..Obviously that back fired on him. And yes Cerrato was problem A Zorn was problem B

JoeRedskin · 03-25-2010, 07:59 PM

From the Article: "Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and just say the last group that was here was just ..... I enjoyed Coach Zorn. I enjoyed his staff. I feel like we learned a lot from them. I just feel like right now some of the things that have been done here now are coming from our coach himself."

Zorn had his issues undoubtedly, but it is clear that he was being undercut at every turn. Cerrato was an incompetent cancer who made impossible for the organization to succeed.

What is obvious is that the players knew Zorn was not the final word about anything.

Equally obvious is that the players know that Shanahan is in charge.

NYCskinfan82 · 03-25-2010, 08:03 PM

Good to hear stuff like this, it's March but still nice.

Longtimefan · 03-25-2010, 08:26 PM

It's always good when you hear good vibes coming from the park. I don't want to rush my life away, but I really look forward to to the season and to watch all the happy talk turn into stellar play on the field.

03-25-2010, 05:13 PM	#1
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike Santana Moss Is 'Just Thrilled' About His New Coaches __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-25-2010, 05:28 PM	#2
GMScud Swearinger Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 12,626	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike The more interviews I'm reading/hearing with players since Shanahan came in- a lot of the comments... man you can really tell just how deeply in over his head Zorn was. I listened to interviews with Kedric Golston and Lorenzo Alexander yesterday on The John Thompson show, and they both at times prefaced statements with "no disrespect to Coach Zorn, BUT..." I mean listen to what Santana said- it's a new thing to be held accountable for being late! Sheesh. Anyway, it looks like we're in very good hands with Shanahan. That certainly seems to be a central theme. __________________ Tardy

03-25-2010, 05:38 PM	#3
SmootSmack Uncle Phil Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 45,256	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike I think the bigger problem was really Cerrato, putting aside all the personnel issues, Cerrato just wasn't suited to be the main guy leading the organization. Just all the internal daily management of the staff was a mess the past two years. Seems to be more structure now and that trickles down to the players on the field...but still, it's only March __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

03-25-2010, 06:00 PM	#7
McD5 Camp Scrub Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 35	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike A professional organization. What a nice change.

03-25-2010, 06:00 PM	#8
53Fan Franchise Player Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Kill Devil Hills, N.C. Posts: 7,570	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike "When you have someone that's here but he can't say this-or-that and do this-and-that. You get what we had." Vinny was definitely a big part of the problem. Working under Vinny was no piece of cake. __________________ Defense wins championships. Bring it!

03-25-2010, 07:01 PM	#10
MTK \m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 52 Posts: 99,845	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike Hard to find anyone that's not happy with the changes so far. And really how could they not be thrilled to have a professional regime in place from the top down. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

03-25-2010, 07:43 PM	#11
rbanerjee23 The Starter Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 2,440	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike Wow as a Zorn supporter I am really disheartened to hear about the way he handled the team...it explains a lot in terms of the lack of discipline and players not doing the little things like Moss pointed out. __________________ "Tough times don't last but tough people do" -Mike Shanahan HTTR

03-25-2010, 07:51 PM	#12
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,526	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike I feel like Zorn was being laid back to earn the respect of players..Obviously that back fired on him. And yes Cerrato was problem A Zorn was problem B __________________ "Anyones better than Madieu Williams"

03-25-2010, 07:59 PM	#13
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 62 Posts: 10,401	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike From the Article: "Don't get me wrong, I'm not going to sit here and just say the last group that was here was just ..... I enjoyed Coach Zorn. I enjoyed his staff. I feel like we learned a lot from them. I just feel like right now some of the things that have been done here now are coming from our coach himself." Zorn had his issues undoubtedly, but it is clear that he was being undercut at every turn. Cerrato was an incompetent cancer who made impossible for the organization to succeed. What is obvious is that the players knew Zorn was not the final word about anything. Equally obvious is that the players know that Shanahan is in charge. __________________ Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.

03-25-2010, 08:03 PM	#14
NYCskinfan82 Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Queens, NYC Age: 56 Posts: 3,803	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike Good to hear stuff like this, it's March but still nice.

03-25-2010, 08:26 PM	#15
Longtimefan Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Germantown, Md. Posts: 4,832	Re: Santana Moss Excited About Kyle and Mike It's always good when you hear good vibes coming from the park. I don't want to rush my life away, but I really look forward to to the season and to watch all the happy talk turn into stellar play on the field.

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