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Old 05-11-2010, 11:23 AM   #1
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[QUOTE=GTripp0012;700101]Maybe not being mentioned here is the fact that the interests of the team and interests of Haynesworth aren't at all divergent. Sure, Shanahan prefers if AH is in camp with the rest of his teammates learning a defense that Jim Haslett is also learning to teach to him, as you would expect from a football coach.

Haynesworth needs to get his numbers because he has a sense of personal pride and a huge contract to live up to, so you better damn believe he's going to get his. And the Redskins need Haynesworth to get his numbers because they have very few people capable of getting that production. So the Redskins need Haynesworth to be in the best possible physical condition a lot more than they needed him at this last mini-camp.

I'm not sure those things are mutually exclusive, but I have little reason to doubt that AH is acting in both his best interest and the best long-term interest of the team.[/QUOTE]

Yeah, he's the greatest! If only all the other players would be like him and care enough about the best long term interests of the team to stay away from the minicamps. But, alas, they don't - the selfish bastards!

OK, I'll grant you that he has the right to stay away. I'll even grant you that he's probably working out hard. But please don't try to turn his absence from a 3 day minicamp into a "AH is acting in the best interests of the team" argument. That's just not true.
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Yeah, he's the greatest! If only all the other players would be like him and care enough about the best long term interests of the team to stay away from the minicamps. But, alas, they don't - the selfish bastards!

OK, I'll grant you that he has the right to stay away. I'll even grant you that he's probably working out hard. But please don't try to turn his absence from a 3 day minicamp into a "AH is acting in the best interests of the team" argument. That's just not true.
I think the bitter girlfriends group need to write Roger Goodell and ask him to outlaw voluntary camps, and make all camps, OTAs, and workout sessions mandatory. I think this would solve this, and any problem.

On a serious note, I think this would not be a bad idea. I find "voluntary" sessions to be stupid, and the commotion they create in the media and fans is even worst.
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I think the bitter girlfriends group need to write Roger Goodell and ask him to outlaw voluntary camps, and make all camps, OTAs, and workout sessions mandatory. I think this would solve this, and any problem.

On a serious note, I think this would not be a bad idea. I find "voluntary" sessions to be stupid, and the commotion they create in the media and fans is even worst.
I know where it came from, but I don't get the whole bitter girlfriend thing. At the core, this is about "who do you want in the foxhole with you". The 50+ guys who made sacrifices to be at the voluntary workouts to make the team better, or the one selfish a-hole who didn't.
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I know where it came from, but I don't get the whole bitter girlfriend thing. At the core, this is about "who do you want in the foxhole with you". The 50+ guys who made sacrifices to be at the voluntary workouts to make the team better, or the one selfish a-hole who didn't.
So you want the Redskins to build a roster based on attendance and being a good boyscout as opposed to skill and play on the field? Not me.
You talk about who you want in the foxhole with you. Look at who was the only ballsy Redskin that ran to DeAngelo Halls defense when NY Giants Beatty and Jacobs tried to jack up DeAngelo. AH. No other Redskins player on the field had the guts to defend their teammate.
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So you want the Redskins to build a roster based on attendance and being a good boyscout as opposed to skill and play on the field? Not me.
You talk about who you want in the foxhole with you. Look at who was the only ballsy Redskin that ran to DeAngelo Halls defense when NY Giants Beatty and Jacobs tried to jack up DeAngelo. AH. No other Redskins player on the field had the guts to defend their teammate. YouTube - Giants fight
Slow down there....where did I mention anything about building a team of "boyscouts". There was 99% attendance, AH was the only one who missed. Did I say cut him, no. I just stated that he's a selfish, "me first" dude. Let's call him what he is, a very large physical presence that makes a positive difference on the DL for 67% of the snaps each year. He's a mercenary and a nuisance behavior wise. He is not committed to the team, only to himself. If he was committed to the team, he would've been at mini-camp.

On the vid, I saw it when it happened, and there were plenty of Skins there to defend Hall, although AH was the only one swinging wildly and getting flagged.
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I know where it came from, but I don't get the whole bitter girlfriend thing. At the core, this is about "who do you want in the foxhole with you". The 50+ guys who made sacrifices to be at the voluntary workouts to make the team better, or the one selfish a-hole who didn't.
I don't know about a foxhole, but on the field I want the best players playing in the position that suits them the best. Personally, I don't think being at voluntary work outs is a sacrifice, but I do understand why it would be good to have everyone at these voluntary workouts.

Outside of his injuries, Shawn Springs missed a number of voluntary camps/workouts, and I'm sure a lot of people would have wanted him in the foxhole.
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I don't know about a foxhole, but on the field I want the best players playing in the position that suits them the best. Personally, I don't think being at voluntary work outs is a sacrifice, but I do understand why it would be good to have everyone at these voluntary workouts.
I agree. I'm not a fan of this 3-4 switch either, but whether we're in a 3-4 or 4-3 or nickel or dime or whatever, that has nothing to do with AH being here for the mini-camp.

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Outside of his injuries, Shawn Springs missed a number of voluntary camps/workouts, and I'm sure a lot of people would have wanted him in the foxhole.
I wouldn't have wanted Springs in a foxhole with me, he's another guy who had different priorities and his teammates weren't at the top of the list. I understand not everyone has the same level of committment, but if you can't make the same committment as 50+ other teammates, that's a "you" problem.
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