Utah killer executed by firing squad

[GhettoDogAllStars]

Originally Posted by Lotus

A firing squad is abnormal as a method of execution. They only used it because he requested it.

We as a country need to wake up and abolish the death penalty. It is an expensive waste.

Note:
1) contrary to popular belief, the death penalty is more expensive. It costs about $750,000 to keep someone in maximum security for life, and maximum security protects society by keeping the murderer locked up. However, because of legal appeals, each death penalty case costs $3-4 million. So, for example, a recent study showed that Florida could save $51 million a year by abolishing the death penalty. The old argument that "I'm not gonna pay to keep a murderer alive" is financial nonsense. This is a big reason why New Jersey abolished the death penalty last year.

2) numerous studies have shown that the death penalty does not deter crime. Almost all of the states with the highest murder rates have the death penalty. Almost all of the states with the lowest murder rates do not have the death penalty.

I'll back you up here. I don't support the death penalty either, but when the circumstances are right, I support vengeance killing.

My basic point of view is: we have made mistakes with the death penalty and have killed innocent people. Not cool with me that our government kills innocent people. Certainly not the way a free society should act, IMO.

I also think that lawyers are taught the n-Guilty men doctrine, which pretty much states that it is better for guilty men to go free than innocent men to be imprisoned. Maybe some Warpath lawyers can confirm/deny this.

As for vengeance killing -- if I witnessed somebody commit serious crimes against my family or loved ones, I might become enraged and kill them out of vengeance and I don't think I would be wrong for doing it -- or anyone else for that matter.

Just my $0.02

In any case, I saw an article about this guy before. Firing squad has been eliminated as a means for execution in the state of Utah. However, this guy and a few others had requested it before its elimination, and so they were "grandfathered" in. I've got to say, I like his style.

[firstdown]

Originally Posted by GhettoDogAllStars

I'll back you up here. I don't support the death penalty either, but when the circumstances are right, I support vengeance killing.

My basic point of view is: we have made mistakes with the death penalty and have killed innocent people. Not cool with me that our government kills innocent people. Certainly not the way a free society should act, IMO.

I also think that lawyers are taught the n-Guilty men doctrine, which pretty much states that it is better for guilty men to go free than innocent men to be imprisoned. Maybe some Warpath lawyers can confirm/deny this.

As for vengeance killing -- if I witnessed somebody commit serious crimes against my family or loved ones, I might become enraged and kill them out of vengeance and I don't think I would be wrong for doing it -- or anyone else for that matter.

Just my $0.02

In any case, I saw an article about this guy before. Firing squad has been eliminated as a means for execution in the state of Utah. However, this guy and a few others had requested it before its elimination, and so they were "grandfathered" in. I've got to say, I like his style.

Not many people are convicted in todays world without DNA evidence to convict them. I say when we are 100% sure we have the right person give them one appeal then death.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by firstdown

Not many people are convicted in todays world without DNA evidence to convict them. I say when we are 100% sure we have the right person give them one appeal then death.

Dna gets screwed up all the time,the lab here in houston has fucked up so many cases its unreal.Also I watched a show the iother night and part of it was about some woman who had 4 kids and none of them matched her dna.So its pretty damn hard to be 100% sure.As far as the death penalty is concerned,I dont care if they keep it or do away with it