Commanders Post at The Warpath  

Home | Forums | Donate | Shop




Go Back   Commanders Post at The Warpath > Off-Topic Discussion > Debating with the enemy

Debating with the enemy Discuss politics, current events, and other hot button issues here.


For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Debating with the enemy


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-02-2010, 03:52 PM   #1
firstdown
Living Legend
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 61
Posts: 15,817
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by saden1 View Post
What does "I don’t really understand it, but I like what they stand for" mean?

Lindsy Graham said it best:

He says that because he knows he is part of the problem the one like the people in the Tea Party want to see gone. He wishes the Tea Party would go away and when they run someone against has ass he can sit at home and talk about how they are fading away some more. The left is just as scared of this growing movement. Hell I might donate some money to them because we need other choices then what we have in DC today. What is Congresses approval rating 18% or something like that so I know I'm not the only one who feels we need change.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 04:03 PM   #2
Lotus
Fire Bruce NOW
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 11,434
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Nearly half say blacks lag in jobs, income and housing "because most African-Americans just don't have the motivation or willpower to pull themselves up out of poverty."
With such bigoted views, the Tea Party will be its own undoing. History is moving in the opposite direction from such views.
__________________
Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-02-2010, 04:08 PM   #3
saden1
MVP
 
saden1's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Seattle
Age: 46
Posts: 10,069
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
He says that because he knows he is part of the problem the one like the people in the Tea Party want to see gone. He wishes the Tea Party would go away and when they run someone against has ass he can sit at home and talk about how they are fading away some more. The left is just as scared of this growing movement. Hell I might donate some money to them because we need other choices then what we have in DC today. What is Congresses approval rating 18% or something like that so I know I'm not the only one who feels we need change.
Seems to me he doesn't give a shit about his job security like his buddy McCain seems to. Tea Party = Green Party at best and overall people seem to have a negative view of them. Time will tell, my bet is they disappear soon as Obama leaves office.
__________________
"The Redskins have always suffered from chronic organizational deformities under Snyder."

-Jenkins
saden1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 04:25 PM   #4
Miller101
Special Teams
 
Miller101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 362
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by firstdown View Post
He says that because he knows he is part of the problem the one like the people in the Tea Party want to see gone. He wishes the Tea Party would go away and when they run someone against has ass he can sit at home and talk about how they are fading away some more. The left is just as scared of this growing movement. Hell I might donate some money to them because we need other choices then what we have in DC today. What is Congresses approval rating 18% or something like that so I know I'm not the only one who feels we need change.
Congress' approval rating is at 18% only because Republicans keep filibustering everything! If Democrats were to get a majority in the Senate then you would see the filibustering stop and their ratings go up.
__________________
"And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium
Miller101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 04:38 PM   #5
firstdown
Living Legend
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 61
Posts: 15,817
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post
Congress' approval rating is at 18% only because Republicans keep filibustering everything! If Democrats were to get a majority in the Senate then you would see the filibustering stop and their ratings go up.
Yea right. Maybe its because they all suck and they all need to go.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-06-2010, 04:39 PM   #6
Slingin Sammy 33
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post
Congress' approval rating is at 18% only because Republicans keep filibustering everything! If Democrats were to get a majority in the Senate then you would see the filibustering stop and their ratings go up.


Last time I checked the Dems had a majority in the Senate. They had a supermajority (minority doesn't have enough votes to keep a filibuster going) until the special election was held to fill the seat vacated by Sen. Kennedy's passing was won...in liberal Mass....by a Republican. If that's not an indictment of the Democratic controlled Congress I don't know what is.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 10:04 AM   #7
Miller101
Special Teams
 
Miller101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 362
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post


Last time I checked the Dems had a majority in the Senate. They had a supermajority (minority doesn't have enough votes to keep a filibuster going) until the special election was held to fill the seat vacated by Sen. Kennedy's passing was won...in liberal Mass....by a Republican. If that's not an indictment of the Democratic controlled Congress I don't know what is.


The Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate! Sixty Seats is a majority in the Senate! 60! And thats just breaking even! The most they have had in this term is 58. You can look it up if you don't believe me. Your Republican pals filibuster everything that comes along. Every single bill!!! Thats why I said that we need to get some more Democrats in the Senate. So the Republican Filibuster can be broken. Then and only then things will start getting done. The American People will be happy to see things get done and their ratings will go up. On the other hand, If it stays the way it is now......................................with Republicans still holding power. Our country could very well stay in the freakin dirt!
__________________
"And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium
Miller101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 10:18 AM   #8
SmootSmack
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 45,256
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


The Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate! Sixty Seats is a majority in the Senate! 60! And thats just breaking even! The most they have had in this term is 58. You can look it up if you don't believe me. Your Republican pals filibuster everything that comes along. Every single bill!!! Thats why I said that we need to get some more Democrats in the Senate. So the Republican Filibuster can be broken. Then and only then things will start getting done. The American People will be happy to see things get done and their ratings will go up. On the other hand, If it stays the way it is now......................................with Republicans still holding power. Our country could very well stay in the freakin dirt!
Democrats struggle to hold critical 60-seat Senate majority - CNN.com
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 10:32 AM   #9
Lotus
Fire Bruce NOW
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 11,434
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


The Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate! Sixty Seats is a majority in the Senate! 60! And thats just breaking even! The most they have had in this term is 58. You can look it up if you don't believe me. Your Republican pals filibuster everything that comes along. Every single bill!!! Thats why I said that we need to get some more Democrats in the Senate. So the Republican Filibuster can be broken. Then and only then things will start getting done. The American People will be happy to see things get done and their ratings will go up. On the other hand, If it stays the way it is now......................................with Republicans still holding power. Our country could very well stay in the freakin dirt!
Given that there are 100 senators, 51 is the number for a majority. 60 is the number for a powerful super-majority.
__________________
Bruce Allen when in charge alone: 4-12 (.250)
Bruce Allen's overall Redskins record : 28-52 (.350)
Vinny Cerrato's record when in charge alone: 52-65 (.444)
Vinny's overall Redskins record: 62-82 (.430)
We won more with Vinny
Lotus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 11:22 AM   #10
Slingin Sammy 33
Playmaker
 
Slingin Sammy 33's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Virginia Beach
Posts: 4,347
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


The Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate! Sixty Seats is a majority in the Senate! 60! And thats just breaking even! The most they have had in this term is 58. You can look it up if you don't believe me. Your Republican pals filibuster everything that comes along. Every single bill!!! Thats why I said that we need to get some more Democrats in the Senate. So the Republican Filibuster can be broken. Then and only then things will start getting done. The American People will be happy to see things get done and their ratings will go up. On the other hand, If it stays the way it is now......................................with Republicans still holding power. Our country could very well stay in the freakin dirt!
Have you and jtf been on the NASA shuttle to Bizarro world together? There are countries that have a similar structure to what you're looking for....Venezuela, Cuba, China come to mind.
__________________
"I would bet.....(if), an angel fairy came down and said, '[You can have anything] in the world you would like to own,' I wouldn't be surprised if you said a football club and particularly the Washington Redskins.'' — Jack Kent Cooke, 1996.
Slingin Sammy 33 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 05:40 PM   #11
Miller101
Special Teams
 
Miller101's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 362
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33 View Post
Have you and jtf been on the NASA shuttle to Bizarro world together? There are countries that have a similar structure to what you're looking for....Venezuela, Cuba, China come to mind.


You actually think that Republicans don't hold power? Are you freakin kidding me!?!?!??! I mean, why hasn't Wall Street Reform passed? Because Republicans have prevented it from doing so. THAT IS CALLED POWER!!!! And also called DUH!!! When you can hold up a bill that is supposed to help bring this country out of a Great Recession.....................its takes POWER to do so. DUH!!!! And Democrats don't have a super majority to break the filibuster! DUH!!!!

Its sixty votes to get bills passed in the Senate now. Once upon a time it was fifty with the Vice President breaking the tie. Now, its sixty. Republicans have filibustered every single thing, so it takes Sixty votes to break that and pass the bill. Dems just don't have the votes.

Quote:
Originally Posted by JoeRedskin
Wow. The President is a Democrat, the Democrats hold a majority in the House, a majority in the Senate and yet the Republicans are "still holding power"!!! Amazing. Add that to your "Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate" and you are just the Fact Checking Man!!!

Tell the truth, you've learned your debate style from JTF.
Once again, The Dems don't hold a majority in the Senate. With Senator Byrd's passing they hold fifty-six seats now. Fifty-six is NOT ENOUGH to get a bill passed anymore and therefore is NOT Majority. DUH!!! If it was enough then Wall Street Reform would have passed already! DUH!!!!

Sixty Seats is a majority. SIXTY!!! THE BIG '6' '0'!!! And a Super Majority is something like Sixty-Eight or Sixty Seven................heck, maybe even Sixty-Five. When was the last time the Democrats had that many? Not in my lifetime. And until they get that many. Nothing will get done that the Democrats want to get done. Including passing a bill that will help to, get this, ACTUALLY REGULATE WALL STREET. When you regulate Wall Street you might actually stop a Great Recession from happening before it even happens. Can you imagine that? Preventing something so serious from ever happening? I can't! Not when Republicans have enough power to stop the Democrats from doing anything and everything that the Dems need to do too bring this country out of the ditch that they put it in.

Here, here is a little video that I found that explains almost all of the bills that have been held up by the Senate. Bills that have passed the house, but won't pass the Senate:

YouTube - Wall St Reform? Party of Nope thinks...
">
YouTube - Wall St Reform? Party of Nope thinks...
" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">
__________________
"And the Redskins went down there and manhandled them and they basically undressed them and now everybody's been lining up to get a piece of them." - John Riggins on the last game we played in Texas Stadium
Miller101 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 05:56 PM   #12
GMScud
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 12,626
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Deleted.
__________________
Tardy
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-11-2010, 06:12 PM   #13
GMScud
Swearinger
 
GMScud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Washington, DC
Posts: 12,626
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


You actually think that Republicans don't hold power? Are you freakin kidding me!?!?!??! I mean, why hasn't Wall Street Reform passed? Because Republicans have prevented it from doing so. THAT IS CALLED POWER!!!! And also called DUH!!! When you can hold up a bill that is supposed to help bring this country out of a Great Recession.....................its takes POWER to do so. DUH!!!! And Democrats don't have a super majority to break the filibuster! DUH!!!!

Its sixty votes to get bills passed in the Senate now. Once upon a time it was fifty with the Vice President breaking the tie. Now, its sixty. Republicans have filibustered every single thing, so it takes Sixty votes to break that and pass the bill. Dems just don't have the votes.



Once again, The Dems don't hold a majority in the Senate. With Senator Byrd's passing they hold fifty-six seats now. Fifty-six is NOT ENOUGH to get a bill passed anymore and therefore is NOT Majority. DUH!!! If it was enough then Wall Street Reform would have passed already! DUH!!!!

Sixty Seats is a majority. SIXTY!!! THE BIG '6' '0'!!! And a Super Majority is something like Sixty-Eight or Sixty Seven................heck, maybe even
Sixty-Five.
Miller, the Dems still have a majority. FYI, there are only 100 Senators- two per state. If the Democrats have 56, more than half, then how do they not have a majority? Do explain.

The Dems no longer have 60 senators, which is the filibuster-proof super majority. DUH!!!

You talk loud and say nothing.

Democrats struggle to hold critical 60-seat Senate majority - CNN.com
Republican Scott Brown Defeats Democrat Martha Coakley in Massachusetts Senate Race - ABC News
Democrats Lose More than Senate Seat in Mass: Massachusetts Elects Republican for Senate, Dems Lose Super Majority
__________________
Tardy
GMScud is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-12-2010, 09:23 AM   #14
firstdown
Living Legend
 
firstdown's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: chesapeake, va
Age: 61
Posts: 15,817
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


You actually think that Republicans don't hold power? Are you freakin kidding me!?!?!??! I mean, why hasn't Wall Street Reform passed? Because Republicans have prevented it from doing so. THAT IS CALLED POWER!!!! And also called DUH!!! When you can hold up a bill that is supposed to help bring this country out of a Great Recession.....................its takes POWER to do so. DUH!!!! And Democrats don't have a super majority to break the filibuster! DUH!!!!

Its sixty votes to get bills passed in the Senate now. Once upon a time it was fifty with the Vice President breaking the tie. Now, its sixty. Republicans have filibustered every single thing, so it takes Sixty votes to break that and pass the bill. Dems just don't have the votes.



Once again, The Dems don't hold a majority in the Senate. With Senator Byrd's passing they hold fifty-six seats now. Fifty-six is NOT ENOUGH to get a bill passed anymore and therefore is NOT Majority. DUH!!! If it was enough then Wall Street Reform would have passed already! DUH!!!!

Sixty Seats is a majority. SIXTY!!! THE BIG '6' '0'!!! And a Super Majority is something like Sixty-Eight or Sixty Seven................heck, maybe even Sixty-Five. When was the last time the Democrats had that many? Not in my lifetime. And until they get that many. Nothing will get done that the Democrats want to get done. Including passing a bill that will help to, get this, ACTUALLY REGULATE WALL STREET. When you regulate Wall Street you might actually stop a Great Recession from happening before it even happens. Can you imagine that? Preventing something so serious from ever happening? I can't! Not when Republicans have enough power to stop the Democrats from doing anything and everything that the Dems need to do too bring this country out of the ditch that they put it in.

Here, here is a little video that I found that explains almost all of the bills that have been held up by the Senate. Bills that have passed the house, but won't pass the Senate:

YouTube - Wall St Reform? Party of Nope thinks you're a Dope">YouTube - Wall St Reform? Party of Nope thinks you're a Dope" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" width="425" height="350">
So do you actually believe that wall street is not currently regulated? You could read a three inch thick book on their regulation and still have not read all heir regulation.
firstdown is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2010, 05:13 PM   #15
JoeRedskin
Contains football related knowledge
 
JoeRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Second Star On The Right
Age: 62
Posts: 10,401
Re: For JTF's Reading Pleasure: "What is the Tea Party"

Quote:
Originally Posted by Miller101 View Post


The Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate! Sixty Seats is a majority in the Senate! 60! And thats just breaking even! The most they have had in this term is 58. You can look it up if you don't believe me. Your Republican pals filibuster everything that comes along. Every single bill!!! Thats why I said that we need to get some more Democrats in the Senate. So the Republican Filibuster can be broken. Then and only then things will start getting done. The American People will be happy to see things get done and their ratings will go up. On the other hand, If it stays the way it is now......................................with Republicans still holding power. Our country could very well stay in the freakin dirt!
Wow. The President is a Democrat, the Democrats hold a majority in the House, a majority in the Senate and yet the Republicans are "still holding power"!!! Amazing. Add that to your "Democrats never have had a majority in the Senate" and you are just the Fact Checking Man!!!

Tell the truth, you've learned your debate style from JTF.
__________________
Strap it up, hold onto the ball, and let’s go.
JoeRedskin is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:52 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
We have no official affiliation with the Washington Commanders or the NFL.
Page generated in 2.70757 seconds with 12 queries