Allen believes TW will sign on time

[Monkeydad]

I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be blamed for a deal not getting done. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Buster: " According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. "


How can the rookies and teams wait to see how the new CBA will be structured? They won't get that done between now and training camp opening.

Buster this is not a jab at you, it just does not make much sense to wait this long when the deal won't be done and the rookie pay scale may or may not be in the next CBA. I know that Hasell said it is something they want to get done, but you can't gaurentee it will be in place come April 2011. Just get these deals done and get the guys in camp operating off of the same basis they have for years. The Player, Agents and GMs can change all this next offseason not now.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Buster

I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be blamed for a deal not getting done. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.

You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty

[artmonkforhallofamein07]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty

That makes more sense.

[Monkeydad]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You didn't hear right. They weren't talking about draft picks. It was in reference to current players (guys like Manning, Brady, McNabb) who have contracts but are due to expire soon who have not signed new contracts because of the CBA uncertainty

Wrong, they were talking about draft picks signing and specifically mentioned Jamarcus Russell not signing until September and ruining his rookie season, plus the other two instances of #1 picks not signing into July, Eli Manning and Alex Smith. Golic even asked "so 7 of the last 10 first picks have signed in April or May and no first rounders have signed this year?" I'm not saying they're accurate, but I understand what they were saying...about DRAFT PICKS.

Yes, they were also talking about Brady and Manning...but it's common knowledge they're not getting deals until after Bradford's numbers are finalized.



Backup for what I heard/said:

Lions, unsigned Ndamukong Suh talking big money | detnews.com | The Detroit News

Lions, unsigned Ndamukong Suh talking big money

Mike O'Hara / Special to The Detroit News

Allen Park --With the start of NFL training camps rapidly approaching and no first-round draft picks signed, the agent for Lions rookie Ndamukong Suh is using only one reference point in negotiations for his client.

It's not just Trent.

More from article:

Several factors have made the signing of draft picks considerably slower this year than in previous years.



No first-round picks were signed as of Tuesday morning. The Lions have two first-rounders. They drafted running back Jahvid Best of California 30th overall after acquiring the pick in a trade with Minnesota.



One factor is that Oklahoma quarterback Sam Bradford, drafted first overall by the Rams, has not signed. The top pick often sets the standard, but there are exceptions.



In 2008, the Dolphins signed offensive tackle Jake Long of Michigan a few days before officially making him the first player drafted. The Lions signed Stafford the day before last year's draft.



Negotiations between the NFL owners and the players association on a new collective bargaining agreement also have made an impact. Many people are expecting a lockout by the owners next year.



There is increasing sentiment on the part of owners to get a rookie wage scale, similar to the one in place in pro basketball. Commissioner Roger Goodell has been outspoken in saying more money should go to veterans and less to rookies.

^ Exactly what I said.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by Buster

I don't think Trent or the Redskins can really be blamed for a deal not getting done. According to Mike and Mike this morning, NO 1st round picks have signed yet because they're waiting to see how the new CBA will be structured. Teams just aren't sure how these rookie contracts will affect them going forward.

I have no doubts he'll be here, somehow. He and the team understands Trent's importance to this team in 2010.

spoken by someone that hates unions? who the hell is to blame? those 2 sides are the ones sitting at the table. too me, it boils down to the athlete. the framework is already in place. so are the numbers. unless the skins are trying to play hard ball, which i doubt, he will be in camp