V. Jackson "Prepared to Sit out season"

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Are you serious? I can't tell whether you purposely say silly things or really are silly.

1. Randy Moss
2. Andre Johnson
3. Larry Fitzgerald
4. Chad Johnson
5. Regie Wayne


Hell, I'm not even sure he's better than DeSean Jackson, Hines Ward, Steve Smith or Brandon Marshall. Top 5 my ass.

You really think Ocho is better than Jackson? Good player and all, master of running a lot of intermediate routes. Simply can't make plays like Jackson does either after the catch or downfield. I get the whole two years argument, but Ochocinco was last a 90 catch, 1,400 yard guy in 2007 (age 29). Don't know how he could be on anyone's top five list anymore based on that.

You could substitute Smith, who is still pretty dominant out there even though he's seeing his workload decreased. But if you're top five list is Moss, Johnson, Fitzgerald, Smith, and Wayne: players like Roddy White and Vincent Jackson are right there to take over as Moss/Smith/Wayne decline.

Even if Jackson is not quite top five, it seems foolish to suggest he's not going to be there soon, especially when that list is populated by 30+ year olds.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

You really think Ocho is better than Jackson? Good player and all, master of running a lot of intermediate routes. Simply can't make plays like Jackson does either after the catch or downfield. I get the whole two years argument, but Ochocinco was last a 90 catch, 1,400 yard guy in 2007 (age 29). Don't know how he could be on anyone's top five list anymore based on that.

You could substitute Smith, who is still pretty dominant out there even though he's seeing his workload decreased. But if you're top five list is Moss, Johnson, Fitzgerald, Smith, and Wayne: players like Roddy White and Vincent Jackson are right there to take over as Moss/Smith/Wayne decline.

Even if Jackson is not quite top five, it seems foolish to suggest he's not going to be there soon, especially when that list is populated by 30+ year olds.

Jackson is 28 next January....he ain't no spring chicken and he's certainly not worth the kind of money he's asking for. When these players take over I'll be happy to reevaluate my position.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Jackson is 28 next January....he ain't no spring chicken and he's certainly not worth the kind of money he's asking for. When these players take over I'll be happy to reevaluate my position.

No, he's not young-young, but he's also in the same class as, without the same dropoff risk of, guys like Moss and Steve Smith.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

No, he's not young-young, but he's also in the same class as, without the same dropoff risk of, guys like Moss and Steve Smith.

You think him and Rice deserves top 5 money?

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

You think him and Rice deserves top 5 money?

Oh, of course. You give me someone as proven as Jackson (and then to a lesser proven extent, Rice and Austin), and those are your surest bets from an investment perspective. (Rice's injury would hurt his value a bit).

I'm sure they'd compromise and take top ten money, and then both sides would be happy, but the reason that Jackson is such a lost man in San Diego is because hes a FA next offseason, and he's already suspended for 3+ weeks. That's not valuable to them, but it's very valuable to other teams. I don't blame SD at all for holding him until they get an offer they like.

But now, they pretty much just have two suitors for him: us and Seattle. That lowers the trade compensation substantially.

[saden1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

Oh, of course. You give me someone as proven as Jackson (and then to a lesser proven extent, Rice and Austin), and those are your surest bets from an investment perspective. (Rice's injury would hurt his value a bit).

I'm sure they'd compromise and take top ten money, and then both sides would be happy, but the reason that Jackson is such a lost man in San Diego is because hes a FA next offseason, and he's already suspended for 3+ weeks. That's not valuable to them, but it's very valuable to other teams. I don't blame SD at all for holding him until they get an offer they like.

But now, they pretty much just have two suitors for him: us and Seattle. That lowers the trade compensation substantially.

Give me your top 5.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by saden1

Give me your top 5.

Fitzgerald, Johnson, Wayne, Jackson, either Moss or Smith at five.

[jsarno]

Originally Posted by saden1

Jackson is 28 next January....he ain't no spring chicken and he's certainly not worth the kind of money he's asking for. When these players take over I'll be happy to reevaluate my position.

Just an FYI, Jackson will be 27 all season, and that's the exact year Marvin Harrison broke out, and was extremely productive for 8 more years after that. WR isn't like RB...there is no wall at 30. I'd say the wall for wr's is 34 or 35.
The man is 6'5" 241lbs, and can run pretty darn fast. He's a freak, and on a team like the Skins, 1300+ yards would be extremely likely given we now have a QB to throw to him. DB's just can't match up with him.