Asterisks on Baseball Records

FRPLG · 03-17-2005, 10:48 PM

Steroids were illegal throughout the 90's. They simply weren't tested for because the CBA didn't contain any language as such. There was enough labor acrimony that the last thing anyone wanted to deal with was drug testing. They were worrying about staying in business so owners didn't push for it because it would have proven just another big hurdle in getting players on the field.

I disagree with those who think there should e asterisks. It is accepted that some players of the recent era were using steroids and by defualt all records set offensivley are completely tarnished. It is detrimental to the game to ahve these records on the books but...
If you consider removing them or even putting an asterisk next to them you start down a very slippery slope. To even consider such action would in my opinion require insurmountable evidence of steroid use. In the end it seems more detrimental to the game to start wiping out records. I think we move foward with the knowledge the many records are tarnished. Maybe down the road when all these guys are long gone they talk about removing them.

CrazyCanuck · 03-18-2005, 02:10 AM

I'm not in favor of asterisks. There have always been cheaters in the game.

It's the league's responsibility to enforce the rules, and given that MLB is probably the worst run league in the history of sports, I'm not surprised that they haven't. It would also help if they had some rules to begin with.

While I don't doubt that many of today's players are juiced, I don't think it's fair to punish them based on rules that didn't exist.

PS - Anyone catch the hearings today? - high comedy.
Sosa, Canseco, Palmeiro, McGwire, Schilling all sitting at the same table (Frank Thomas via satellite) with congressmen firing questions at them. Funny stuff.

Here's my report card:
- Sosa - looked as juiced as ever
- Canseco - juiced
- McGwire - juiced
- Palmeiro - looked clean to me
- Schilling - not juiced I don't think, just a little fat
- Thomas - underterminable due to satellite feed

GO NATS

03-17-2005, 10:48 PM	#1
FRPLG MVP Join Date: May 2004 Age: 47 Posts: 10,164	Re: Asterisks on Baseball Records Steroids were illegal throughout the 90's. They simply weren't tested for because the CBA didn't contain any language as such. There was enough labor acrimony that the last thing anyone wanted to deal with was drug testing. They were worrying about staying in business so owners didn't push for it because it would have proven just another big hurdle in getting players on the field. I disagree with those who think there should e asterisks. It is accepted that some players of the recent era were using steroids and by defualt all records set offensivley are completely tarnished. It is detrimental to the game to ahve these records on the books but... If you consider removing them or even putting an asterisk next to them you start down a very slippery slope. To even consider such action would in my opinion require insurmountable evidence of steroid use. In the end it seems more detrimental to the game to start wiping out records. I think we move foward with the knowledge the many records are tarnished. Maybe down the road when all these guys are long gone they talk about removing them.

03-18-2005, 02:10 AM	#2
CrazyCanuck Serenity Now Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2,008	Re: Asterisks on Baseball Records I'm not in favor of asterisks. There have always been cheaters in the game. It's the league's responsibility to enforce the rules, and given that MLB is probably the worst run league in the history of sports, I'm not surprised that they haven't. It would also help if they had some rules to begin with. While I don't doubt that many of today's players are juiced, I don't think it's fair to punish them based on rules that didn't exist. PS - Anyone catch the hearings today? - high comedy. Sosa, Canseco, Palmeiro, McGwire, Schilling all sitting at the same table (Frank Thomas via satellite) with congressmen firing questions at them. Funny stuff. Here's my report card: - Sosa - looked as juiced as ever - Canseco - juiced - McGwire - juiced - Palmeiro - looked clean to me - Schilling - not juiced I don't think, just a little fat - Thomas - underterminable due to satellite feed GO NATS

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