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Old 02-03-2011, 04:32 PM   #1
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While the Haynesworth and Peppers signings are superficially similar, the Bears didn't sign Peppers with the idea that they would plug him in somewhere and hope. The Bears had a coaching staff that really, truly understands it's defensive scheme, and so when they signed Peppers, they released Alex Brown and opted not to resign Adewale Ogunleye.

Those were eye opening moves, but in hindsight, somewhat necessary to make sure Peppers could succeed in the scheme. When we signed Haynesworth, we didn't release Griffin or Phillip Daniels or something similar, we dropped the one guy who might have benefitted from Haynesworth the most (Jason Taylor) for $8 million dollars of cap space. [Although we were in cap hell and needed that $8 million to have a draft.]

Our coaches didn't understand defense very well (and we still don't have coaches as good as the Bears coaches, which is why the 2010 Haynesworth thing happened).

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I still think that the Redskins don't know how to make a big prized free agent signing work. Although you can definitely blame these situations on the players themselves, it has happened enough times that some blame has to go towards the team.

We all know Haynesworth is a scumbag, but why is it that Jeff Fisher and his staff made him into a dominant DT (post stomping incident), whereas two coaching regimes could not do anything with him?

I just hope this new regime stays away from an expensive free agent...well they technically didn't with the McNabb acquisition. But I hope they've learned from it.
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I still think that the Redskins don't know how to make a big prized free agent signing work. Although you can definitely blame these situations on the players themselves, it has happened enough times that some blame has to go towards the team.

We all know Haynesworth is a scumbag, but why is it that Jeff Fisher and his staff made him into a dominant DT (post stomping incident), whereas two coaching regimes could not do anything with him?

I just hope this new regime stays away from an expensive free agent...well they technically didn't with the McNabb acquisition. But I hope they've learned from it.
IMO I think Shanny thought he could do a quick fix with this team, thus the McNabb trade, but from post season articles in WaPo he has recognized the need to rebuild. I guess a season that does not meet your expectations will do that.

In terms on Haynesworth, I think the structure and continuity in Tennessee was the reason for his success. In DC the constant change and drama and the lack of communication made for a bad mix for a player that craves structure.
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IMO I think Shanny thought he could do a quick fix with this team, thus the McNabb trade, but from post season articles in WaPo he has recognized the need to rebuild. I guess a season that does not meet your expectations will do that.

In terms on Haynesworth, I think the structure and continuity in Tennessee was the reason for his success. In DC the constant change and drama and the lack of communication made for a bad mix for a player that craves structure.
I'm reasonably certain that Shanahan was trying to provide structure. AH would have none of it. Perhaps the continuity helped in Tennessee, but who knows...

AH was obviously ruined by his mega contract, I think the only hope for him as a football player would be to run out of money and to have to play for a living again, so to speak.

What a waste!
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I'm reasonably certain that Shanahan was trying to provide structure. AH would have none of it. Perhaps the continuity helped in Tennessee, but who knows...

AH was obviously ruined by his mega contract, I think the only hope for him as a football player would be to run out of money and to have to play for a living again, so to speak.

What a waste!
I was referring to the Redskins organization as a whole and its rate of turnover of how a team should be run. I agree that Shanahan tried to incorporate structure, but the entire organization was/is? chaotic.
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IMO I think Shanny thought he could do a quick fix with this team, thus the McNabb trade, but from post season articles in WaPo he has recognized the need to rebuild. I guess a season that does not meet your expectations will do that.

In terms on Haynesworth, I think the structure and continuity in Tennessee was the reason for his success. In DC the constant change and drama and the lack of communication made for a bad mix for a player that craves structure.
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I'm reasonably certain that Shanahan was trying to provide structure. AH would have none of it. Perhaps the continuity helped in Tennessee, but who knows...
Call me crazy, but I think Shanahan was trying to a quick fix and provide structure at the same time. I don't think the Redskins were in a position as a team to do both well.
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