Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck?

30gut · 05-04-2011, 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Garrard was an "early round pick". He went in the 4th round in 02...

BTW, Marc Bulger also was a 6th round pick...

Oh, I know.
I was wondering that could David Garard be the QB to named later contingent upon the CBA as part of the draft day trade?

Longtimefan · 05-04-2011, 07:42 AM

This analysis could very well speak to the Redskins reasoning for passing on a passer in this years draft.

What to make of the quarterback class of 2011 - The League - The Washington Post

The QB situation in Carolina is going to be one worth watching. Newton vs. Clausen will be interesting in more ways than one. Some thought we should have drafted Clausen last year. Is it likely they feel the same way today? That same question probably will be posed around the league this time next year about this years selections.

In all fairness though, the labor situation is going to hamper the early development of many of these young players, especially QB's

skinsfaninok · 05-04-2011, 09:32 AM

He threw 70 Yards in college folks, that was 4-5 years ago. When he was at miami his arm wasn't close to as good like it was at BYU.

SmootSmack · 05-04-2011, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by 30gut

I don't post that often but no offense it often seems like you're loudly factual incorrect:

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SmootSmack · 05-04-2011, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

This analysis could very well speak to the Redskins reasoning for passing on a passer in this years draft.

What to make of the quarterback class of 2011 - The League - The Washington Post

The QB situation in Carolina is going to be one worth watching. Newton vs. Clausen will be interesting in more ways than one. Some thought we should have drafted Clausen last year. Is it likely they feel the same way today? That same question probably will be posed around the league this time next year about this years selections.

In all fairness though, the labor situation is going to hamper the early development of many of these young players, especially QB's

I'd love to go after Clausen...would even seriously consider Matt Moore but he may no better than a solid backup

celts32 · 05-04-2011, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Longtimefan

This analysis could very well speak to the Redskins reasoning for passing on a passer in this years draft.

What to make of the quarterback class of 2011 - The League - The Washington Post

The QB situation in Carolina is going to be one worth watching. Newton vs. Clausen will be interesting in more ways than one. Some thought we should have drafted Clausen last year. Is it likely they feel the same way today? That same question probably will be posed around the league this time next year about this years selections.

In all fairness though, the labor situation is going to hamper the early development of many of these young players, especially QB's

I still like Clausen. He had next to no chance last year in Carolina. I don't want to give up the #2 pick Carolina spent on him but if they are looking to turn the page I would throw a mid round pick for him.

SirClintonPortis · 05-04-2011, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

He threw 70 Yards in college folks, that was 4-5 years ago. When he was at miami his arm wasn't close to as good like it was at BYU.

His 61.1 mph was measured at the Combine. Sooooo, unless he had a traumatic injury prior to his Miami start, I just don't see how his armed died so quickly.

MTK · 05-04-2011, 11:19 AM

Just going by what we saw from him last preseason, I don't see anything wrong with his arm.

Lotus · 05-04-2011, 11:33 AM

I see nothing wrong with Beck's arm. He does sometimes have that quirky 3/4 semi-sidearm release, rather than an over-the-top release, though.

Monkeydad · 05-04-2011, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Draft Day Breakdown from Jaws

At the very least we can understand why Shanahan might have ranked Beck above Quinn, Kolb, and Russel on draft day.

Also funny to see Kipers best available during the draft.

I feel that you're right to be skeptical as it relates to Beck. However if arm strength is what you're worried about, well lets just say Beck has you covered

From the 36 YL to the 1...that's 63 yards exactly.

Monkeydad · 05-04-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Lotus

I see nothing wrong with Beck's arm. He does sometimes have that quirky 3/4 semi-sidearm release, rather than an over-the-top release, though.

What's your problem?

Lotus · 05-04-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Monkeydad

What's your problem?

Some folks can get away with that funky motion. Many folks can't.

Slingin Sammy 33 · 05-04-2011, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I'd love to go after Clausen...would even seriously consider Matt Moore but he may no better than a solid backup

McNabb for Clausen straight up. Gives Newton an mentor and a year to sit. Gives Clausen a fresh start with an O minded HC. Value for both is close.

Dirtbag59 · 05-04-2011, 01:56 PM

The thing I noticed with Beck is that as a rookie, when he got deeper in the game he got happy feet. I do like though that he puts touch on his throws and is able to anticipate routes at this level. However as a rookie he may have been over his head. 2010 preseason aside where he had like a day to learn the offense his preseason play has been pretty good.

Still in his debut he started out strong then started to unravel as he got deeper into the playbook and away from the scripted plays. Personally I kind of want to ride the Beck experiment. Sure it could easily blow up in our face, but the worst that will happen is we get in better position to select a QB next year.

Furthermore I think the plan to win games this year is with tough defense and getting the lineman to perfect the zone scheme we have in place. The line was much better at the end of the year once they gelled. Also have one of the backs develop along with Torrain so we don't have to worry about injuring a playing that could have easily had 1,200 to 1,300 yards if he didn't get injured.

Alvin Walton · 05-04-2011, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Slingin Sammy 33

McNabb for Clausen straight up. Gives Newton an mentor and a year to sit. Gives Clausen a fresh start with an O minded HC. Value for both should is close.

I'd do that in a heartbeat.

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Dirtbag59 Naega jeil jal naga Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Atlanta, Georgia From: Silver Spring, Maryland Age: 40 Posts: 14,750	Re: Redskins 2011 Starting Quarterback: John Beck? The thing I noticed with Beck is that as a rookie, when he got deeper in the game he got happy feet. I do like though that he puts touch on his throws and is able to anticipate routes at this level. However as a rookie he may have been over his head. 2010 preseason aside where he had like a day to learn the offense his preseason play has been pretty good. Still in his debut he started out strong then started to unravel as he got deeper into the playbook and away from the scripted plays. Personally I kind of want to ride the Beck experiment. Sure it could easily blow up in our face, but the worst that will happen is we get in better position to select a QB next year. Furthermore I think the plan to win games this year is with tough defense and getting the lineman to perfect the zone scheme we have in place. The line was much better at the end of the year once they gelled. Also have one of the backs develop along with Torrain so we don't have to worry about injuring a playing that could have easily had 1,200 to 1,300 yards if he didn't get injured. __________________ "It's nice to be important, but its more important to be nice." - Scooter "I feel like Dirtbag has been slowly and methodically trolling the board for a month or so now." - FRPLG

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