Should T.O. be a first ballot Hall of Famer?

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

There are a lot of really really good receivers who arguably should be but aren't. But TO is one of the best WRs to ever play the game.

No doubt he should be in the Hall of Fame, but first ballot is another thing. I think he should be, but I feel voters may make him sweat it out for a bit.

It's too bad, because he practices extremely hard, has been one of the games best receivers for over a decade, and has never had any serious issues with the law. But you can't repeatedly throw your QBs under the bus and not expect that to come back and haunt you.

Yeah, he's a been a cancer to his quarterbacks for sure, but his numbers are undeniable. Stats-wise he's probably a top 3 receiver all time. He works his tail off and has never had any off the field transgressions legally. I've never liked TO, but in my mind he's without question a first-ballot HOF'er.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by GMScud

Yeah, he's a been a cancer to his quarterbacks for sure, but his numbers are undeniable. Stats-wise he's probably a top 3 receiver all time. He works his tail off and has never had any off the field transgressions legally. I've never liked TO, but in my mind he's without question a first-ballot HOF'er.

Just to reiterate, I think he should be. I just wouldn't be surprised if he isn't. I think it's a shame when he gets lumped in with the "lawless thugs" when really his issues are far different

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Just to reiterate, I think he should be. I just wouldn't be surprised if he isn't. I think it's a shame when he gets lumped in with the "lawless thugs" when really his issues are far different

TO learned his egotistical ways from none other than Jerry Rice (trust me, he did) and went further and became a pest to all his QB's. As for a Lawless thug, he has always had a good heart outside the field and has helped many people in many ways. Hard to figure him out.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by SFREDSKIN

TO learned his egotistical ways from none other than Jerry Rice (trust me, he did) and went further and became a pest to all his QB's. As for a Lawless thug, he has always had a good heart outside the field and has helped many people in many ways. Hard to figure him out.

Yeah, I know all about Rice's egotistical ways. But like TO, aside from the "prostitution" incident, never any real off-field issues.

Here's a question for you guys (not to take this thread too far off topic). If you had to choose one-who goes in 1st ballot. TO or Marvin Harrison?

Let's say TO's career is over: Here are his numbers-15 years; 1,078 receptions; 15,934 yards; 156 TDs

Harrison-13 years; 1,102 receptions; 14,580 yards; 128 TDs

One a complete loner who often wouldn't even go into team huddles, the other invites the young WRs on the team to live and train with him in the off-season. One of them has thrown almost all his QBs under the bus, the other played with one of the best of all time. One of them has never had a serious issue with the law, the other....curiously involved in a fatal shooting.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Here's a question for you guys (not to take this thread too far off topic). If you had to choose one-who goes in 1st ballot. TO or Marvin Harrison?

Let's say TO's career is over: Here are his numbers-15 years; 1,078 receptions; 15,934 yards; 156 TDs

Harrison-13 years; 1,102 receptions; 14,580 yards; 128 TDs

One a complete loner who often wouldn't even go into team huddles, the other invites the young WRs on the team to live and train with him in the off-season. One of them has thrown almost all his QBs under the bus, the other played with one of the best of all time. One of them has never had a serious issue with the law, the other....curiously involved in a fatal shooting.

Tough, tough choice, Harrison always reminded me of Monk and I always liked him until the shooting incident, which shocked the hell out of me. Coin flip!!

[NC_Skins]

TO definitely has the numbers to get into the Hall, but they should make him wait just for being a asshat his whole career. It would be icing on the cake. I'm just happy has hell that he'll never get a Super Bowl ring...lol YES!!!

[freddyg12]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, I know all about Rice's egotistical ways. But like TO, aside from the "prostitution" incident, never any real off-field issues.

Here's a question for you guys (not to take this thread too far off topic). If you had to choose one-who goes in 1st ballot. TO or Marvin Harrison?

Let's say TO's career is over: Here are his numbers-15 years; 1,078 receptions; 15,934 yards; 156 TDs

Harrison-13 years; 1,102 receptions; 14,580 yards; 128 TDs

One a complete loner who often wouldn't even go into team huddles, the other invites the young WRs on the team to live and train with him in the off-season. One of them has thrown almost all his QBs under the bus, the other played with one of the best of all time. One of them has never had a serious issue with the law, the other....curiously involved in a fatal shooting.

Harrison by far, he was consistently good & never kept his team from winning like TO did.

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Yeah, I know all about Rice's egotistical ways. But like TO, aside from the "prostitution" incident, never any real off-field issues.

Here's a question for you guys (not to take this thread too far off topic). If you had to choose one-who goes in 1st ballot. TO or Marvin Harrison?

Let's say TO's career is over: Here are his numbers-15 years; 1,078 receptions; 15,934 yards; 156 TDs

Harrison-13 years; 1,102 receptions; 14,580 yards; 128 TDs

One a complete loner who often wouldn't even go into team huddles, the other invites the young WRs on the team to live and train with him in the off-season. One of them has thrown almost all his QBs under the bus, the other played with one of the best of all time. One of them has never had a serious issue with the law, the other....curiously involved in a fatal shooting.

TO hands down. More yardage on fewer catches and more TD's. One thing you can't deny TO is he got in the end zone better than anyone that's ever played except a couple of players.