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View Poll Results: Who Do You Want Starting at QB Opening Day?
John Beck 123 73.65%
Rex Grossman 44 26.35%
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:38 PM   #1
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

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Brady had 4 Int's in the Bills game.
Brees has had 3 Int's in the Buccaneers game.
Newton had 3 Int's in the Packers and Falcons games.
Roethlisberger had 3 Int's in the Ravens game.
Vick had 4 Int's in the Bills game.

I guess all these QB's should be benched for the 2nd stringer as well.

Yeah well Rex Grossman isn't even on the same Planet as these 5 above. So that argument isn't too strong my friend.
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Yeah well Rex Grossman isn't even on the same Planet as these 5 above. So that argument isn't too strong my friend.
You're missing the point.
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:45 PM   #3
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You're missing the point.

Lol No I see the point I mean it happens to all the QBs but Rex has done this his whole career.
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Old 10-18-2011, 01:53 PM   #4
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

Actually, it is a fair point that even great QBs have stretches of throwing picks. But even for the excellent ones who have done so this season (Brady, Brees, et al.), they've also thrown a lot of TDs -- a lot more than Rex.

The reality is that Rex just hasn't been good this season, and we've largely won 3 games despite him, not because of him. As I see it, his performaces are as follows:

1. Giants win -- a good game all around for Rex.
2. AZ win -- a terrible first half, but a solid second half and comeback win.
3. Dallas loss -- awful
4. Rams win -- awful
5. Eagles loss -- awful

By my count, that is 6 quarters -- out of 20 -- where he has played well. And that just doesn't cut it in this league. I like the guy and was rooting for him to be successful. And I like the fact that his teammates are pulling for him -- see the Moss response -- which suggests he's showing greater leadership in practice than appears evident on the field.

At this point, I would argue for giving Beck a shot. Rex is a turnover machine and has been his whole career, and as we do not exactly have an explosive offense (a great D, though), we have to basically play mistake free football to win games. And I just do not have confidence he can do that.
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Lol No I see the point I mean it happens to all the QBs but Rex has done this his whole career.
and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.
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Re: Who do you want to start at QB?

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and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.
Here is the real stat to look at. TD to INT comparison.

Brady- 151 games, 277 TD's to 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 248 TD's to 140 INT's

Grossman- 46 games, 46 TD's to 49 INT's.

Stafford - 19 games 34 TD's to 25 INT's
EMannig 11 games 167 TD's to 118 INT's

Grossman is not good. Period.

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Here is the real stat to look at. TD to INT comparison.

Brady- 151 games, 277 TD's to 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 248 TD's to 140 INT's

Grossman- 46 games, 46 TD's to 49 INT's.

Stafford - 19 games 34 TD's to 25 INT's
EMannig 11 games 167 TD's to 118 INT's

Grossman is not good. Period.
One small correction, EManning had 111 games.

No I agree with you. My point is do you really think any of those QB's would do any better in this offense with the same WR's Rex has had? I'll be man enough to admit they might have a little better results, but look at their skills. Each one of them I'd say are accurate on the short routes no different then Grossman. Where the difference is, is that the other QB's can throw up the deep ball and they have WR's who will locate the ball in the air and run to where its going to be. For whatever reason if the ball is not right in the bread basket for our WR's they don't catch it. and.... even if it is in the bread basket they drop it half the time.
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One small correction, EManning had 111 games.

No I agree with you. My point is do you really think any of those QB's would do any better in this offense with the same WR's Rex has had? I'll be man enough to admit they might have a little better results, but look at their skills. Each one of them I'd say are accurate on the short routes no different then Grossman. Where the difference is, is that the other QB's can throw up the deep ball and they have WR's who will locate the ball in the air and run to where its going to be. For whatever reason if the ball is not right in the bread basket for our WR's they don't catch it. and.... even if it is in the bread basket they drop it half the time.
Rex sucks, let's just call it what it is. Guys like Brady have worked with no-name WR corps in the past and had success. Our WRs aren't world beaters but the cupboard is far from bare too.
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and..... the others have not?

Brady- 151 games, 111 INT's.
Brees- 144 games, 140 INT's.
EManning- 111 games, 118 INT's.
Stafford- 19 games, 25 INT's.
Roethlisberger- 105 games, 92 INT's.
Vick- 104 games, 66 INT's.

Grossman- 46 games, 49 INT's.

I'm soo glad EManning and Stafford suck just as much as Grossman. I wonder when those respected teams will start chanting for the 2nd stringer.

I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine.
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Old 10-18-2011, 05:52 PM   #10
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I agree Eli is not Brady,Brees or even his brother but anyone that thinks he and Rex are equal....needs their head examine.

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