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Uncle Phil
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
How many Belichick have without Tom Brady? How many did Bill Walsh have without Montana and Young? How many did Tony Dungy have without Peyton Manning?
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Hug Anne Spyder
Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
Seriously. I hate the "what has he done without Elway" argument. What if our next qb turned out to be as good as Elway? Would fans start up a "yeah, well what has he done when he didn't have (insert HOF caliber passer here)?" argument even if we were winning lots of games as a result of the excellent coach/passer combo?
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Living Legend
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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After seeing MS since he's been here, I just don't put him on the level of the great head coaches that I've seen.....Gibbs 1, Walsh and there probably a few I'm leaving out. |
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Gamebreaker
Join Date: Nov 2010
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
Preach.
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Exactly! How many did Joe Gibbs have without Joe Theismann......oh yeah....nevermind.
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Join Date: Mar 2005
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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Ppl get off of MS he's the best HC the redskins have had since Gibbs 1.. He just doesn't have the right amount of talent to win week in and out, It's not that hard to figure out folks..
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
Maybe he should fire his personnel guy who isn't getting him the talent?
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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It's been 2 seasons tripp, this team was one of the worst talent wise 3 years ago.. Hey I'm w you I hate losing and shit is getting old but even though I rant and rave and say F the skins during the game I love em like a family member and I'll be patient as I've been for 20 years.. It'll pay off
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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I don't mind losing if losing is productive in the big picture. Losing isn't fun but watching young guys do well is. We have one young guy playing at a high level: Kerrigan. With pretty much the whole roster being in it's prime, the results are as good as they will get under this leadership. Adding a quarterback in the draft wouldn't have changed the result of today's game unless we could have jumped on them early. No matter what the gameplan ultimately is, you have to be able to throw the ball early to get a lead.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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Orakpo Kerrigan Fletch OLD BUT STILL Hall- Solid player Landry Atogwe F Davis Hightower T Williams Coefield j Brown Are all starters for many teams in the NFL.
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Jones-Drew Mike Thomas Monroe M. Lewis Pozluszny Clint Session Daryl Smith Alualu Knighton Rashean Mathis Dawan Landry and Gabbert My point is the Jags aren't good at all, but they have a core of talent just as strong as ours.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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Shanny's moves: - Kerrigan - young, great so far - TW - young, has shown flashes, still not consistent but overall good - Bowen/Cofield - relatively young/in prime (27), have at least 4-5 years left, been good overall - Carriker - young, in prime 27, good overall, gotten for rotating draft picks - Atogwe - aging 30yo, ?hasn't shown much so far - Promising youth: Helu, ?Jenkins Others (non-shanny): - Orakpo - young, great rusher, below average pass coverage - F.Davis - young, good TE - Landry - young, good at strong safety, liability when overpursues - Aging old guard: S.Moss / Cooley - now average - aging: J.Brown - 30yo |
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
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What I'm not saying is: "you are either old, or youre young. And we're old." If you look at that core and who is contributing compared to the youth, it's just not clear why this core will be better in future seasons. It's a mature core. Kerrigan looks great and has his best days ahead of him, but for every Kerrigan there's a Barnes. Now, if the core of the roster is good, that's what is reflected in your record. So while we may have good, young players in their prime, what we don't have is a winning team propelled by that core. And so in a field of 32 teams, it looks pedestrian. The way to turn that around quickly is to make that second list look like a who's who list of tomorrow's pro-bowlers. Right now it's Kerrigan, a kicker, an injured rookie, an injured second year player, and a bunch of guys who need to crack the roster soon to provide optimism. Still plenty of upside there, but each week you get no return out of it sets the franchise back. And it justifies the questions I am asking.
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
Hisself?
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Panthers)
Actually, the idea of a head coach getting fed up with his personnel guy and firing him is pretty funny. The only thing more screwed up than a power structure like that is one where the coach actively prevents himself from building a talented roster.
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