Patriots Waive Haynesworth

[GTripp0012]

It's hard to 'rip off' a team that only gave a fifth rounder, but it sure looks like we won the McNabb and Haynesworth deals.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to 'rip off' a team that only gave a fifth rounder, but it sure looks like we won the McNabb and Haynesworth deals.

One benched...the other...gone.........

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by GTripp0012

It's hard to 'rip off' a team that only gave a fifth rounder, but it sure looks like we won the McNabb and Haynesworth deals.

I think this is a bit of a stretch. I'm just glad that the circus is gone and we got something in return for these two huge errors.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think this is a bit of a stretch. I'm just glad that the circus is gone and we got something in return for these two huge errors.

The three special teamers/olinemen or whatever other shots in the dark we draft from these players' respective trades don't need to contribute much to make more contributions than McNabb and Haynesworth. Just enough to beat out a half-season of almost nothing and another few weeks of bad QB play.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

The three special teamers/olinemen or whatever other shots in the dark we draft from these players' respective trades don't need to contribute much to make more contributions than McNabb and Haynesworth. Just enough to beat out a half-season of almost nothing and another few weeks of bad QB play.

That's great, but it doesn't make up for the $41 million in guarantees and the 2nd rounder that were wasted in these two guys. Unless we get a solid starter out of these three low draft picks, we haven't won anything. Even if that happens, we still have a wasted year where the team could have been rebuilding.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

That's great, but it doesn't make up for the $41 million in guarantees and the 2nd rounder that were wasted in these two guys. Unless we get a solid starter out of these three low draft picks, we haven't won anything. Even if that happens, we still have a wasted year where the team could have been rebuilding.

Those are transactions that need be evaluated own their own terms. I get that you're talking about the whole sum of their contributions. But I'm talking about just the trades itself. It won't take much to win the trades in which we got the low round picks. It'll take more to make up for the total losses.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Those are transactions that need be evaluated own their own terms. I get that you're talking about the whole sum of their contributions. But I'm talking about just the trades itself. It won't take much to win the trades in which we got the low round picks. It'll take more to make up for the total losses.

I see what you are saying, it's just that I hate that in all this talk the fact that the team committed a big mistake with these guys gets lost.

For instance, I hate when fans/analysts/talking heads say: "The benching of McNabb proves that Mike Shanahan was correct". Now this is true, it proves that Mike Shanahan was correct at the end of a wasted season last year. But it also proves that Mike Shanahan was dead wrong when he decided to spend picks on McNabb.

[SirClintonPortis]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I see what you are saying, it's just that I hate that in all this talk the fact that the team committed a big mistake with these guys gets lost.

For instance, I hate when fans/analysts/talking heads say: "The benching of McNabb proves that Mike Shanahan was correct". Now this is true, it proves that Mike Shanahan was correct at the end of a wasted season last year. But it also proves that Mike Shanahan was dead wrong when he decided to spend picks on McNabb.

Well, I find it understandable how a coach would be tempted by Haynesworth.I was certainly a Haynesworth supporter in my own right for quite a while here. The man just oozes talent and some of the stuff he shows could do was pretty damn good. That's why even no-nonsense guy like Belichick took a flyer on him (for cheap, but still) instead of passing on him altogether. That's why MS set his price for AH so high(if true) during the offseason where he supposedly could have gotten a 3rd rounder from the Titans for AH, I think.

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I see what you are saying, it's just that I hate that in all this talk the fact that the team committed a big mistake with these guys gets lost.

For instance, I hate when fans/analysts/talking heads say: "The benching of McNabb proves that Mike Shanahan was correct". Now this is true, it proves that Mike Shanahan was correct at the end of a wasted season last year. But it also proves that Mike Shanahan was dead wrong when he decided to spend picks on McNabb.

I agree with you. Trading away DMac and AH were small wins for us. But trading for DMac and not trading AH earlier were big losses for us which were not balanced out by later trades. These personnel moves are black marks on the Shanallen resume.