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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
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Roethlisberger, Brady, Peyton Manning are in the playoffs every year, but the only one of the three that didn't play for a machine of an organization that could have kept on going without him is Manning (though I don't know if the Pats of the last two years could have survived another Brady injury). Meanwhile, Drew Brees, Philip Rivers, Tony Romo, and Eli Manning have all missed the playoffs in consecutive seasons recently, and while Aaron Rodgers is quickly reaching the first category, there was a 6-10 season in the not too distant past for the Packers. Matt Schaub has gotten the Texans to the playoffs just once. The attribution mistake is that you're lumping the quarterbacks with entirely all the credit, and in the cases of the elite, perhaps they deserve that much credit, but great quarterbacks miss the playoffs every year. That's not supposed to make them less great. Joe Flacco makes the playoffs every year, that doesn't make Flacco a top level player. But if you're comparing him to Drew Brees, Flacco's team performs consistently better in the regular season and the playoffs.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
Only trade Shannahan should be making is trading up. Don't mess around another year and not draft a young qb. We have been doing that since Jason Campbell. I need for them to realize that drafting a qb is an urgent need and should be done. Get RG3 and stop the games.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
No, the Pats beat the Broncos so badly because they have a stud at the qb position and the broncos do not.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
Bingo. And unlike the Patriots, the likelihood of us finding a franchise diamond in the rough like Brady in the 6th round because we trade back isn't going to happen...
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
Well, Brady also has stud receivers and tight ends to throw to (Welker, Gronkowski, Hernandez.) I still have high hopes for Tim Tebow next year.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
We all know Brady is the main ingredient in their success though.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
Who were his stud WRs when he was winning those 3 Super Bowls? And Welker's best year before going to NE was 687 yards.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
His stud WR then were his defensive players. They had a great defense to help brady win then. Now their O is better but the D is shit. Go ravens!
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
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Wes Welker is rated one of, if not THE top receiver in the league right now. Rob Gronkowski is a complete beast. And Hernandez always seems to make a clutch catch. Brady's got some weapons to throw to. I'm not saying Brady is nothing without good receivers - everybody knows Brady is a future Hall of Famer, but come on, look at the quality players he's got around him. Stick Tom Brady on a team like the Jaguars or the Rams and see how well he does.
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Re: Drafting at 6? A trade with Cincy makes sense
No. Only with 10 other all pros can a QB succeed in the NFL. QB's need like 10 minutes to throw and all the defensive lineman are secretly allowed to take steroids and HGH.
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Mike's 2011 draft could turn out to be very good, but it's hardly a foregone conclusion.
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And machine of an organization? Huh? The Pats were a machine before Brady? The Saints before Brees? Look at the teams that are in the playoffs and look at the teams that draft in the first 10 spots each year. The main thing they have in common is QB play. The ones with the worst are picking early while the ones with the best are GENERALLY in the playoffs or at least in the hunt just about every year. I don't give QBs all the credit, but they deserve a lot of it. And while Flacco may not be top tier, he's pretty good, and they're a consistent contender with him. The Dilfer year is the exception to the rule, but they didn't fare that well with the likes of Boler and Elvis at the helm. And who are the great QBs that miss the playoffs every year? I'm not saying a really good QB can't miss the playoffs from time to time, but is there a team with a really good QB that consistently misses the playoffs? |
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