The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Here are the QB who potentially could be available at one point or another (excluding draft picks) this offseason:
Peyton Manning
Kevin Kolb
Mark Sanchez
Chad Henne
Matt Flynn
Brian Hoyer
Kyle Orton
Matt Leinart

I didn't put Sam Bradford on the list because Fisher noted him as a main reason he chose St. Louis over Miami. But the Manning decision will impact at least 3-4 teams. Let's say for example Manning is released, signs with Arizona who trades Kolb to the Browns meaning they are no longer in play for RGIII. Or the scenario that SS put out there that the Jets sign Manning, then trade Sanchez here. Until March 8, the QB derby is all speculation. If Manning is free then many doors open.

Well since you put it that way I'll hold on to hope thanks PT.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Well since you put it that way I'll hold on to hope thanks PT.

I've stated many times that my preference is to trade up for RGIII and sign a lower level free agent or keep Grossman to back him up. As for plan B, I'd rather sign Henne than Flynn or Hoyer and draft Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd round. My wild speculation is if the Colts retain Manning then Luck forces a trade of the #1 pick because he doesn't want to sit behind Manning and we go up to get him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've stated many times that my preference is to trade up for RGIII and sign a lower level free agent or keep Grossman to back him up. As for plan B, I'd rather sign Henne than Flynn or Hoyer and draft Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd round. My wild speculation is if the Colts retain Manning then Luck forces a trade of the #1 pick because he doesn't want to sit behind Manning and we go up to get him.

Clearly what's going to happen is...

Manning will convince the Colts that they need to draft Blackmon after they lose Garcon and Wayne in FA

The Rams, already set at QB, will shore up their offensive line with Matt Kalil

The Vikings will forgot to turn in their pick and will not draft anyone at 3

The Browns will take RG3

The Bucs facing Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 6 times a year will lock up Morris Claiborne as Aqib Talib leaves for Tennessee and Ronde Barber retires

The Redskins take Andrew Luck at #6!!!!!

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clearly what's going to happen is...

Manning will convince the Colts that they need to draft Blackmon after they lose Garcon and Wayne in FA

The Rams, already set at QB, will shore up their offensive line with Matt Kalil

The Vikings will forgot to turn in their pick and will not draft anyone at 3

The Browns will take RG3

The Bucs facing Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 6 times a year will lock up Morris Claiborne as Aqib Talib leaves for Tennessee and Ronde Barber retires

The Redskins take Andrew Luck at #6!!!!!

Well yeah, obviously but if I stated it that clearly and succinctly nobody would bother keep coming into the threads.. I was trying to keep your traffic numbers up. Good job of screwing it up for everyone SS. See you in August!

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Well yeah, obviously but if I stated it that clearly and succinctly nobody would bother keep coming into the threads.. I was trying to keep your traffic numbers up. Good job of screwing it up for everyone SS. See you in August!

LOL. Oops

[Giantone]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clearly what's going to happen is...

Manning will convince the Colts that they need to draft Blackmon after they lose Garcon and Wayne in FA

The Rams, already set at QB, will shore up their offensive line with Matt Kalil

The Vikings will forgot to turn in their pick and will not draft anyone at 3

The Browns will take RG3

The Bucs facing Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 6 times a year will lock up Morris Claiborne as Aqib Talib leaves for Tennessee and Ronde Barber retires

The Redskins take Andrew Luck at #6!!!!!

lol...I'll miss Ronde.

[Ruhskins]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Clearly what's going to happen is...

Manning will convince the Colts that they need to draft Blackmon after they lose Garcon and Wayne in FA

The Rams, already set at QB, will shore up their offensive line with Matt Kalil

The Vikings will forgot to turn in their pick and will not draft anyone at 3

The Browns will take RG3

The Bucs facing Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 6 times a year will lock up Morris Claiborne as Aqib Talib leaves for Tennessee and Ronde Barber retires

The Redskins take Andrew Luck at #6!!!!!

Puff puff pass.
:cool-smil

LOL!

[30gut]

I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.

Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.

Yet everyone in this forum (and beyond) seems convinced that the Browns want to use the 6th pick or move up to replace him.
Yet very few or none seem to think that Rams sitting at No.2 will replace Bradford.

Must be good to be perceived as a franchise QB.

[GTripp0012]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.

Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.

Yet everyone in this forum (and beyond) seems convinced that the Browns want to use the 6th pick or move up to replace him.
Yet very few or none seem to think that Rams sitting at No.2 will replace Bradford.

Must be good to be perceived as a franchise QB.

Preach.

The only way I don't think RG3 is going to be there at third overall is if the Rams are willing to take him (and start him) at no. 2 overall.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.

Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.

Yet everyone in this forum (and beyond) seems convinced that the Browns want to use the 6th pick or move up to replace him.
Yet very few or none seem to think that Rams sitting at No.2 will replace Bradford.

Must be good to be perceived as a franchise QB.

Perception is everything.

[Drewsky27]

Im all for getting RGIII, but if a trade up to get him was TOO expensive, another plan could be morris claiborne with in the first round pick and possibly nick foles with the second round pick. Then add OL depth WR, and ILB. Thatd be awesome.

[mredskins]

Originally Posted by 30gut

I find the differing perceptions between Colt McCoy and Sam Bradford interesting.

Other then McCoy playing in a much more difficult division their career production this far has been similar if not identical.

Yet everyone in this forum (and beyond) seems convinced that the Browns want to use the 6th pick or move up to replace him.
Yet very few or none seem to think that Rams sitting at No.2 will replace Bradford.

Must be good to be perceived as a franchise QB.

Prove your point statistical becasue I beleive Bradford has been a much better QB to date then McCoy.

[NC_Skins]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Prove your point statistical becasue I beleive Bradford has been a much better QB to date then McCoy.

Sam Bradford Stats - St. Louis Rams - ESPN

Colt McCoy Stats - Cleveland Browns - ESPN


One was paid close to 30 million for those two years, the other one a ham sandwich and a bag of chips.

[30gut]

Originally Posted by mredskins

Prove your point statistical becasue I beleive Bradford has been a much better QB to date then McCoy.

I'm kinda lazy and the stats are out there at your finger tips but:

Going back to their rookie seasons:

Sam Bradfrod (1) Rams
16 games- 60.0comp% 18tds-15ints/ 6.0 YPA/ 76.5 QBR/ 63 rsh-1 TD 22.2% rsh for 1st down
Rookie of the year

Colt McCoy (3) Browns
8 games- 60.6comp% 6tds-9ints/ 7.1 YPA/ 74.5 QBR/ 136 rsh-1 TD 35.7% rsh for 1st down

Football Outsiders advanced metrics: FOOTBALL OUTSIDERS: Innovative Statistics, Intelligent Analysis | QUARTERBACKS 2010
Bradford DYAR 34/DVOA 34
McCoy DYAR 27/DVOA 25

ESPN Total QBR: NFL Total Quarterback Rating - National Football League - ESPN
Bradford rank 24th QBR: 40.1
McCoy rank 18th QBR: 46.2

2011:
Sam Bradford 53.5% 2164 6 TD 6 INT 70.5 rating
DYAR 42/DVOA 43
ESPN QBR 27.3 ranked 31st

Colt McCoy 57.2% 2711 14 TD 11 INT 74.6 rating
DYAR 30/DVOA 30
ESPN QBR 39.8 ranked 25th

Career:
Sam Bradford
57.6 5676 24 TD 21 INT 6.0 YPA 74.2 rating
Colt McCoy
58.4 4309 20 TD 20 INT 6.3 YPA 74.5 rating

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Puff puff pass.
:cool-smil

LOL!

More than two puffs me thinks....