NFL Network to Review the NFC East Today

[warriorzpath]

The cowboys, giants, and eagles may be formidable, but they all seem to be missing something. The cowboys are missing a leader especially on offense and don't have much of a running game. The giants are overhyped as a team and still have an inconsistent passing game. The eagles are still trying to recover from T.O. and the loss of Brad Childress may also affect them.

[Manusky91]

D'Boyz, The reason I said that about your line is because with Glover is gone on D. On offense, Fabini was hurt for half the year last year and Adams was hurt as well. Is Adams even coming back? The Cowboys are putting a lot of hope in key lineman returning from injury or filling the gaps with unprovens.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by BrudLee

D'BOYZ-

I will agree that you guys had a good draft, and your LB corps should be improved. My only caution is that when you rely on a rookie for immediate impact - and Carpenter really does need to be that guy for you guys - you take a big chance. Most rookies don't get a chance to impact the game in their first year - even in a more instictual position like LB. If Carpenter isn't the impact guy you expect, it will adversely affect the whole defense (one of the curses of the 3-4 is that it requires that LB group to shine, or everyone around them suffers.)

Can we at least agree that the Eagles are in for a long year?

yes we can agree the Eagles are in for a long year they have a 2003 team but they aren't facing 2003 division competition I just can see them at the top as they used to.

I agree we can't relly on rookies but remmember last year dallas played 3 rookies at defense (canty,spears, ware) having great result with all of them and they also played 2 first year starters (B.James, K.Davis) 1 becomening a cornerstone of the LB and the other doing a decent job at FS, all thsi players showed tha ttehy could handle the presure of being first year started and even though they made some rookie mistakes they still produced a verry good defense a better 1 that most expected.

Now they are all i nthe second year and Carpenter shows a lot more knowledge and maturity than most rookies it's not like Ware last year that had to learn a new position all together.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

The cowboys, giants, and eagles may be formidable, but they all seem to be missing something. The cowboys are missing a leader especially on offense and don't have much of a running game. The giants are overhyped as a team and still have an inconsistent passing game. The eagles are still trying to recover from T.O. and the loss of Brad Childress may also affect them.

wow man you can say Dallas has problems with the Oline and at safety as you guys also have some holes and "?" but to say they lack a leader that's just nuts so Bledsoe isn't a leader and all those come from behind games last year who did that?.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

wow man you can say Dallas has problems with the Oline and at safety as you guys also have some holes and "?" but to say they lack a leader that's just nuts so Bledsoe isn't a leader and all those come from behind games last year who did that?.

Are you asking me if I think Bledsoe is a leader ? I think Hellz-no - but see that's just what I think, no need to get TO'd up about anything.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

wow man you can say Dallas has problems with the Oline and at safety as you guys also have some holes and "?" but to say they lack a leader that's just nuts so Bledsoe isn't a leader and all those come from behind games last year who did that?.

See I may have a bad memory or just plain tunnel-vision, but the only come from behind game that I remember seeing the cowboys being involved in was Santana Moss burning them for 2 long tds in the heart of cowboys land.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by Manusky91

D'Boyz, The reason I said that about your line is because with Glover is gone on D. On offense, Fabini was hurt for half the year last year and Adams was hurt as well. Is Adams even coming back? The Cowboys are putting a lot of hope in key lineman returning from injury or filling the gaps with unprovens.

But Glover doesn't help or function in this defense that's why your statement doesn't apply his great as a 4-3 tackle not a 3-4. and yeah adams is comming back will have to waith untill trainning camp to see how good the Oline is and how well they can play together.

Believe me it's our mayor "?" we all just don't know who the'll play but they'll sure be better than last year once Adams went down hey any line is better than what we had last year.

[D'BOYZ]

Originally Posted by warriorzpath

See I may have a bad memory or just plain tunnel-vision, but the only come from behind game that I remember seeing the cowboys being involved in was Santana Moss burning them for 2 long tds in the heart of cowboys land.

well yeah you have

there's SD,SF,almost Oakland drop ball in the endzone, Car, KC, NYG, PHI.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

well yeah you have

there's SD,SF,almost Oakland drop ball in the endzone, Car, KC, NYG, PHI.

Wow that's impressive - including the Oakland loss/almost come from behind/still a loss. You were itching to use that comeback thing weren't you. Good job.

Too bad Bledsoe couldn't lead the patriots to a superbowl victory and watched on the sideline while someone else did. One from the opposing team and once from his own team's bench. And too bad he couldn't lead himself to comeback from losing his starting spot to a low draft choice in his second year.

[warriorzpath]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

wow man you can say Dallas has problems with the Oline and at safety as you guys also have some holes and "?" but to say they lack a leader that's just nuts so Bledsoe isn't a leader and all those come from behind games last year who did that?.

Maybe the cowboys have the ability to lead a horse to water like TO to Dallas. But I think in this case, it's more of leading an ass to water/Dallas.

[warriorzpath]

I bet when they were showing TO around the cowboys stadium, that must've been a little awkward.

... and over there, that's the err ... the star ... you stood on (and basically shitted on).

[warriorzpath]

I can't believe that TO's not in Dallas, working out. I would've thought he would be doing situps without his shirt on, on the Cowboys star in the middle of the field.

[#56fanatic]

Just by reading some of the posts, I am a bit puzzled why the "experts" are saying Arch is a liability in pass coverage. The reason I say that is because :
1) Arch will (I think) be used more for run support. If we go back to a couple of games where Taylor wasn't in the game teams beat us deep. Taylor is used generally as the deep help, especially on passing downs.
2) our defense does not employ a FS and SS. They are SAFETYS, period. The signing of Arch was done primarily as a run support safety, that can help some in pass coverage. We started the look for a safety when Clark got bulldozed by LT in overtime last year.

Now, I can see the reasoning in the overpay category. We had to overpay Randel El and Arch to get them to sign. They both wanted to play in Chicago for their own personal reasons, but chose the Redskins strictly by what we offered in terms of dollars. Plus, we dont really know what they are going to do in the offense. Both guys are not really proven in terms of what we paid. Randel El brings some things to the table in terms of special teams, and trick plays, but has never been a proven everydown WR. Lloyd is young and I believe his numbers are a bit inflated because the 49ers were so bad last year and played from behind virtually all of last year, so they were forced to throw the ball a good bit.

As far as Andre C goes, I think GMs and the "experts" are looking at last year stats. This is an error on their part because he basically played an OLB in a 3-4 defense. He stood up almost all the time. He will be back to his DE position in our 4-3 defense and back with his hand on the ground. He also will provide a little versatility where he can stand up and rush the passer ala lawrence taylor.(i am not comparing the two, only pass rushing positions)

[724Skinsfan]

Originally Posted by D'BOYZ

well yeah you have

there's SD,SF,almost Oakland drop ball in the endzone, Car, KC, NYG, PHI.

I'd be a little embarrassed to admit you had to come from behind to beat SF. Also, Bledsoe didn't beat the Giants, the Giants came back to force OT and Cortez kicked a field goal. You probably would have lost to Philly if Williams hadn't returned an interception for the game winning TD.

Actually, aside from that I am a little impressed that Bledsoe did have 4 legitimate comebacks last year!

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by 724Skinsfan

I'd be a little embarrassed to admit you had to come from behind to beat SF. Also, Bledsoe didn't beat the Giants, the Giants came back to force OT and Cortez kicked a field goal. You probably would have lost to Philly if Williams hadn't returned an interception for the game winning TD.

Actually, aside from that I am a little impressed that Bledsoe did have 4 legitimate comebacks last year!

Dude, I am by no means a Dallas fan, hate em! but you keep raggin on Bledsoe when I think its because it only because he is a Cowboy. He has been mentioned as a future hall of famer. Go back and look at his numbers, career numbers, and see how he matches up in the books. his passing numbers, from what I remember, are pretty good.

On a side note, I hope he throws about 4 picks and gets sacked 10 times against us this year. plus a concussion!