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View Poll Results: Rate your confidence in Jay Gruden
5 - absolutely confident he's the guy 4 4.12%
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:33 PM   #1
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The everything Gruden thread

I've seen enough. He's not pro HC material and you can't tell me there won't be legit HC candidates available at seasons end. Things that tell me Gruden is a loser:
History. He had elite talent at many positions in Cincy and still ALWAYS lost the big game.
Leadership. He doesn't have any. You look for a well prepared and focused team, and hasn't mustered that in a single game this season.
More on leadership, he's completely failed handling the QB situation. You don't shit on the only QB to lead a team to the playoffs in almost 10 years, especially when the rest of your group is playing like garbage.
Individual player concerns. Trent Williams is a good example. He's fat slow and undisciplined under Gruden. That tells me he's not buying in, he went from a pro bowl LT to subpar in less than a season.
Playcalling and game decisions. Need I say more after today? It's worse than Zorn. Enough said.

Personally I'd like a really tough defense minded coach to come in as HC. It's time for a clean sweep of the coaching staff. I hope Snyder has already started the search.
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM   #2
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The blame lays at Gruden's feet cause he's the HC, but these players are just terrible.
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Old 11-30-2014, 04:40 PM   #3
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Re: The everything Gruden thread

I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.
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I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.
Can we fire him and hire his brother and argue that is what we meant to do in the first place?

j/k :-)
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Old 11-30-2014, 05:52 PM   #5
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I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.
I always like your posts and generally agree with everything you say - But - we had Mike Shanahan, who was a proven winner, and who also knew what was going on in Redskins park. Shanahan said the same things about RG that Gruden is saying now. If Gruden is fired and RG3 survives, by next year, we will have seen that 3 Head Coaches benched RG3, has something like that ever happened before??
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Re: The everything Gruden thread

Lauvao, Chester and Compton suck, a blocking TE is needed. Replacing this players on O will help. On D, Haslett, Meriweather, Clark, Riley, Jenkins, Golston, Bowen, Biggers, Porter have to go. Need some athletic LB's like Robinson and DL help.
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Old 11-30-2014, 10:08 PM   #7
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The opening post is an extreme overreaction. Firing Gruden after onr year is part of the readon The Skins have been perennial losers the past two decades. For better or worse lets ride it out and see what Gruden can do as head coach.
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Shanahan didn't do crap without Elway


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I always like your posts and generally agree with everything you say - But - we had Mike Shanahan, who was a proven winner, and who also knew what was going on in Redskins park. Shanahan said the same things about RG that Gruden is saying now. If Gruden is fired and RG3 survives, by next year, we will have seen that 3 Head Coaches benched RG3, has something like that ever happened before??
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Shanahan didn't do crap without Elway
I agree but the argument was that we needed a HC who was a winner and knew what he was getting into here. Regardless of John Elway or not, Shanahan does have those super bowl rings.

That's like saying Bill Belicheck isn't crap without Tom Brady. The future may show that, who can say...
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I would disagree on how good of a coach he was. He does have the rings but he had a great qb to help him... As much as I can't stand belicheck he is a good coach. He was doing well with bledsoe before he got hurt. Gibbs,(1) & parcells were great coaches, got rings with multiple qb's. Gibbs(2) not so good, the game passed him by but I think he taught danny boy patience.



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I agree but the argument was that we needed a HC who was a winner and knew what he was getting into here. Regardless of John Elway or not, Shanahan does have those super bowl rings.

That's like saying Bill Belicheck isn't crap without Tom Brady. The future may show that, who can say...
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I don't want him to be one and done. I want to see what he can do when he has legit weapons and depth at most positions.

Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.
At this point no up and coming coaching candidate or GM is going to want to come here. Why do you think Zorn got the gig? Nobody wanted to come here. It'll be the same story when Grudens fired (whether its this year orwhenever).

The only coaches we'll get is guys who nobody else wanted or who obviously aren't HC material. Mainly Snyder will want to hire puppets. Some poor SOB who wants to be a coach so badly he'll go with whatever the big wig wants even if he knows better until he gets sacked and we go through the whole thing again.
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At this point no up and coming coaching candidate or GM is going to want to come here. Why do you think Zorn got the gig? Nobody wanted to come here. It'll be the same story when Grudens fired (whether its this year orwhenever).

The only coaches we'll get is guys who nobody else wanted or who obviously aren't HC material. Mainly Snyder will want to hire puppets. Some poor SOB who wants to be a coach so badly he'll go with whatever the big wig wants even if he knows better until he gets sacked and we go through the whole thing again.
Go ahead and change your nMe to Debbie Downer. There would have been a ton of coaches who would have taken over Gibbs team. Double G was the maiden in waiting but they effed that up. There would have been others too. And there'll be good candidates after Gruden too.
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Prick

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I don't know, i think it is kind of funny
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Although if we could get a proven winner and a coach who KNOWS what type of atmosphere they're entering into once they set foot in Redskins Park and what they're working with, I would not be opposed to ousting him.

......you mean like Mike Shanahan?
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