The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

[SkinzWin]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Also Colt McCoy, Jimmy Clausen, and Vince Young

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's like digging through the trash can trying to find quality meal.

Metal is valuable. I liken it more to along the lines of a hobo trying to find a cigarette butt that hasn't been smoked all the way.

[Eknox]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

Here are the QB who potentially could be available at one point or another (excluding draft picks) this offseason:
Peyton Manning
Kevin Kolb
Mark Sanchez
Chad Henne
Matt Flynn
Brian Hoyer
Kyle Orton
Matt Leinart

I didn't put Sam Bradford on the list because Fisher noted him as a main reason he chose St. Louis over Miami. But the Manning decision will impact at least 3-4 teams. Let's say for example Manning is released, signs with Arizona who trades Kolb to the Browns meaning they are no longer in play for RGIII. Or the scenario that SS put out there that the Jets sign Manning, then trade Sanchez here. Until March 8, the QB derby is all speculation. If Manning is free then many doors open.

Well since you put it that way I'll hold on to hope thanks PT.

[Paintrain]

Originally Posted by Eknox

Well since you put it that way I'll hold on to hope thanks PT.

I've stated many times that my preference is to trade up for RGIII and sign a lower level free agent or keep Grossman to back him up. As for plan B, I'd rather sign Henne than Flynn or Hoyer and draft Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd round. My wild speculation is if the Colts retain Manning then Luck forces a trade of the #1 pick because he doesn't want to sit behind Manning and we go up to get him.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've stated many times that my preference is to trade up for RGIII and sign a lower level free agent or keep Grossman to back him up. As for plan B, I'd rather sign Henne than Flynn or Hoyer and draft Tannehill or Foles in the 2nd round. My wild speculation is if the Colts retain Manning then Luck forces a trade of the #1 pick because he doesn't want to sit behind Manning and we go up to get him.

Clearly what's going to happen is...

Manning will convince the Colts that they need to draft Blackmon after they lose Garcon and Wayne in FA

The Rams, already set at QB, will shore up their offensive line with Matt Kalil

The Vikings will forgot to turn in their pick and will not draft anyone at 3

The Browns will take RG3

The Bucs facing Cam Newton, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan 6 times a year will lock up Morris Claiborne as Aqib Talib leaves for Tennessee and Ronde Barber retires

The Redskins take Andrew Luck at #6!!!!!

[NC_Skins]

The stupidity level is gaining record levels this early in the year as noted by this quote on another forum.

man if only we had lost more games. winning a couple of meaningless crap games this seasons is going to cost us 10 years of mediocrity. i do not get the reward versus cost equation most people are going through here who argued against tanking the season. if we had merely lost about 2 games on purpose we would have our QB of the future for the next decade. that value is far greater than a stupid win or two in a lost season.

[Son Of Man]

It seems that every offseason there are posters who want us to be conservative at the QB position and either draft one in later rounds or sign one in free agency. Unfortunately that finding diamonds in the rough strategy s ofetn analogous to trying to catch lightning in a bottle. I am a firm believer that we need to be aggressive in identifying a securing our qb of the future. If MS feels he sees one in this current draft, then spend what you have to to go and get him. I don't hear NY fans moaning about what they gave up for Eli. However, I do see skins fans griping about bad QB play year in and year out.

[CrustyRedskin]

Originally Posted by Son Of Man

It seems that every offseason there are posters who want us to be conservative at the QB position and either draft one in later rounds or sign one in free agency. Unfortunately that finding diamonds in the rough strategy s ofetn analogous to trying to catch lightning in a bottle. I am a firm believer that we need to be aggressive in identifying a securing our qb of the future. If MS feels he sees one in this current draft, then spend what you have to to go and get him. I don't hear NY fans moaning about what they gave up for Eli. However, I do see skins fans griping about bad QB play year in and year out.

I agree, 1 franchise QB is better than three 1st rounders at Oline, Dline and secondary. Cause hes gona make those second tier guys a whole lot better.

[Jontrem]

What about Brady Quinn? Thought he was a FA this year too?

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by Jontrem

What about Brady Quinn? Thought he was a FA this year too?

Yes. Will be interesting to see what happens with him. Have heard he currently likes the stability of being in Denver. But if he has the chance to start somewhere else....though I'm not sure where that would be

[skinsfaninok]

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

It's like digging through the trash can trying to find quality meal.

This

#Hail to the Redskins

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

Good point Smoot but I just saw a website that had us giving up the #6 pick the #39 pick and a 2013 2nd rounder to move up and take RGIII. If we pull that off I would be estatic.

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Good point Smoot but I just saw a website that had us giving up the #6 pick the #39 pick and a 2013 2nd rounder to move up and take RGIII. If we pull that off I would be estatic.

That'd be great if that's all it took

What site was that?

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Good point Smoot but I just saw a website that had us giving up the #6 pick the #39 pick and a 2013 2nd rounder to move up and take RGIII. If we pull that off I would be estatic.

I guess I could live with that. What is it...this years 1st, 2nd, and next yrs 2nd rounders? The question is will it be enough? Miami could out bid to try for RGIII. The Browns I'm not counting out. I mean if he's "the man" as most of you say, a franchise QB why would the Browns pass on trying to fix their QB situation for yrs to come?

[SC Skins Fan]

Originally Posted by SBXVII

I guess I could live with that. What is it...this years 1st, 2nd, and next yrs 2nd rounders? The question is will it be enough? Miami could out bid to try for RGIII. The Browns I'm not counting out. I mean if he's "the man" as most of you say, a franchise QB why would the Browns pass on trying to fix their QB situation for yrs to come?

The Browns should be in the driver's seat for the #2 pick if they want it. #4 and #22 works out by the proverbial draft value chart and would seem a very attractive offer for St. Louis. They only have to drop two spots, would probably still get the guy the want (unless that guy is Kahlil) and then get another starter at pick #22. That said, those high 2nds are very valuable commodities, so if the Browns aren't interested then they might be willing to deal. I'm sure StL would hold out for next year's 1st and use the threat of a Cleveland trade (real or not) as leverage. If we're just going by the chart, and assuming a pick a year from now is discounted by a round, then that is the cost to do business, which seems high, but I'm increasingly of the opinion that you should just do what it takes to get a QB assuming he's the right guy (which no one actually has any way of knowing). For that price I'd rather just do what it takes to get Luck, though that might be a complete impossibility.

[EARTHQUAKE2689]

NFL's Future » Blog Archive 2012 NFL Mock Draft: The finalized underclassmen edition

He does have Kendall Wright going 7th but DHB went 7th so.