Theismann Should Have Been MVP Of SB XVII

[htownskinfan]

I will probably be ridiculed for this statement,I love Riggins as much as the next guy,but i just finished watching sb17 over again and in my opinion theisman should have been the mvp.Riggins was pretty pedestrian up to the point he ran for that dramatic td,29 carries for 101 yds,3.4 avg,mostly blocking got him those yds,theisman on the other hand looked great,he was 8-10 on his first 10 attpts,should have been 9-10 if not a great play by a miami defender,and his scrambling kept a few drives alive.His play where the ball was tipped at the line and he knocked it out of bokampers hands to prevent a sure td was pure hustle and saved us the game.Another thing overlooked that I didnt remember,on our final td drive,riggins fumbles at about the 10 yrd line and a miami player picks it up and is running for a sure td but theisman tackles him,the play was not ruled a fumble because the refs said riggins knee was down,and theisman then throws the final td to downtown charlie brown,had instant replay been available then i believe riggins fumble would have been ruled a fumble,and who knows what would have happenned then,riggins could have turned out to be the goat instead of the hero

[GTripp0012]

Theismann certainly played a good game with the oppertunities he had, but he just didn't have too much of an overall effect on the game. Riggins ran 15 more times than Theismann passed.

Probably wouldn't have won unless we had both though.

[SmootSmack]

That tipped play at the end zone is one of the more underrated plays in Redskins history. It's like when Terry Orr recovered the fumble by Rickey Sanders (I think) on the kickoff return after it was 10-0 in SB XXII. The Broncos recover there and it's a whole other ball game.

[dmek25]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That tipped play at the end zone is one of the more underrated plays in Redskins history. It's like when Terry Orr recovered the fumble by Rickey Sanders (I think) on the kickoff return after it was 10-0 in SB XXII. The Broncos recover there and it's a whole other ball game.

if I'm not mistaken, i think that was the only fumble of Rickey Sanders professional career

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That tipped play at the end zone is one of the more underrated plays in Redskins history. It's like when Terry Orr recovered the fumble by Rickey Sanders (I think) on the kickoff return after it was 10-0 in SB XXII. The Broncos recover there and it's a whole other ball game.

I was actually going to say that,but I was thinking more along the lines of most underated play in sb history

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

That tipped play at the end zone is one of the more underrated plays in Redskins history. It's like when Terry Orr recovered the fumble by Rickey Sanders (I think) on the kickoff return after it was 10-0 in SB XXII. The Broncos recover there and it's a whole other ball game.

Not sure if anyone remembers but there was a HUGE no call by the refs that day. When Williams twisted his knee, he actually fumbled the ball and Denver recovered it. However the refs blew it dead. If they had called it a fumble which they should have Denver would have had the ball in our territory up 10-0. Not sure if it would have made a difference but the momentum would have really swung in Denver's favor.

[htownskinfan]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not sure if anyone remembers but there was a HUGE no call by the refs that day. When Williams twisted his knee, he actually fumbled the ball and Denver recovered it. However the refs blew it dead. If they had called it a fumble which they should have Denver would have had the ball in our territory up 10-0. Not sure if it would have made a difference but the momentum would have really swung in Denver's favor.

I remember it vividly,it was def a fumble,game could have def turned out different if broncos go up 17-0,or maybe it would have turned out 42-17 lol
we def could have scored more points in that game,we took it easy on them in the 2nd half

[skinsfan69]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I remember it vividly,it was def a fumble,game could have def turned out different if broncos go up 17-0,or maybe it would have turned out 42-17 lol
we def could have scored more points in that game,we took it easy on them in the 2nd half

i agree. 42-17 or 42-13. either way the onslaught was coming.

[Beemnseven]

I see where you're coming from Htown. Theismann takes a hit these days because just about everybody hates him as a broadcaster. Since it's been so long since he played, I think many people, especially the younger Skins fans don't recognize how great a player he really was.

It cannot be overlooked: Theismann was the last great quarterback the Washington Redskins had. There hasn't been anyone in a burgundy and gold uniform to line up at that position that comes close to the talent, leadership, and gamebreaking ability that Theismann had.

I also think Riggins deserved the MVP -- but Joey T. was a VERY close second. The 43-yard run in the fourth quarter is on just about every Super Bowl highlight reel. It really is one of the NFL's signature moments.

In fact, it might be the most recognizable in Redskin history. If you had to list the most memorable plays with this franchise, I can't think of one that could be ranked above it.

[70Chip]

I think Riggins gets it because of the dramatic nature of the run and his overall playoff performace which was unreal.

Having said that, Theismann is underrated. He had great feet and he could be deadly accurate. Also, he played with a chip on his shoulder and he "competed" (Hat-Tip: Norv Turner). If he had played in New York, all those phonies up there would still be licking his balls.

[hooskins]

this thread is retarted....


edit: my 3.5K post was also retarted...

[skinsguy]

Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Not sure if anyone remembers but there was a HUGE no call by the refs that day. When Williams twisted his knee, he actually fumbled the ball and Denver recovered it. However the refs blew it dead. If they had called it a fumble which they should have Denver would have had the ball in our territory up 10-0. Not sure if it would have made a difference but the momentum would have really swung in Denver's favor.

Yeah and the interpretation that the refs had for that call was that Williams was in the act of "giving himself up" and that is why they blew the whistle. I don't care how one slices it, it still was a fumble.

[MTK]

I'm not sure how you can discount one of the most dramatic game changing plays in SB history.

Riggins was clearly the MVP of that game.

[Carnage]

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I will probably be ridiculed for this statement,I love Riggins as much as the next guy,but i just finished watching sb17 over again and in my opinion theisman should have been the mvp.Riggins was pretty pedestrian up to the point he ran for that dramatic td,29 carries for 101 yds,3.4 avg,mostly blocking got him those yds,theisman on the other hand looked great,he was 8-10 on his first 10 attpts,should have been 9-10 if not a great play by a miami defender,and his scrambling kept a few drives alive.His play where the ball was tipped at the line and he knocked it out of bokampers hands to prevent a sure td was pure hustle and saved us the game.Another thing overlooked that I didnt remember,on our final td drive,riggins fumbles at about the 10 yrd line and a miami player picks it up and is running for a sure td but theisman tackles him,the play was not ruled a fumble because the refs said riggins knee was down,and theisman then throws the final td to downtown charlie brown,had instant replay been available then i believe riggins fumble would have been ruled a fumble,and who knows what would have happenned then,riggins could have turned out to be the goat instead of the hero

Is that you Joey?

[skinsfan_nn]

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