Hypothetical Favre Speculative

[Luxorreb]

Last season I was raked over the coals here suggesting that Favre would play in 2008. I'm gonna guess that he's a shoe in in Minnesota if he wants to play there in 2009. Tarvarius looked absolutely terrible yesterday. There is little chance he'll be back...

I'm going on a limb that Favre plays in Minnesota for his last season.

[Schneed10]

Originally Posted by Luxorreb

Last season I was raked over the coals here suggesting that Favre would play in 2008. I'm gonna guess that he's a shoe in in Minnesota if he wants to play there in 2009. Tarvarius looked absolutely terrible yesterday. There is little chance he'll be back...

I'm going on a limb that Favre plays in Minnesota for his last season.

Isn't he still under contract with the Jets? I could be wrong but I thought he was.

Are you saying they'll trade him or cut him?

[djnemo65]

But wouldn't New York have to release him since he's still under contract? That seems extremely unlikely given that they had to give up picks to get him. Moreover, trading him is out since the terms of the original trade with Green Bay explicitly forbid a second trade to Minnesota.

I think that's where it makes the most sense for him to go and is where he wanted to go all along, but I just don't see how it's possible.

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by djnemo65

But wouldn't New York have to release him since he's still under contract? That seems extremely unlikely given that they had to give up picks to get him. Moreover, trading him is out since the terms of the original trade with Green Bay explicitly forbid a second trade to Minnesota.

I think that's where it makes the most sense for him to go and is where he wanted to go all along, but I just don't see how it's possible.

Was that only in the first year... or the whole contract?

[djnemo65]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Was that only in the first year... or the whole contract?

I was assuming the whole contract although I don't know that for sure.

[MTK]

He's either back in NY or he's done... finally.

[firstdown]

I knew a Farve thread was coming. Farve is done. His body is done. His arm is done.

[Hog1]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I knew a Farve thread was coming. Farve is done. His body is done. His arm is done.

You better "stake" him to make sure!

[sportscurmudgeon]

maroonandblack30:

Tarvaris Jackson is not a good QB at the NFL level; no argument there. He may never become a good QB at the NFL level; time will tell. But if he is the worst you have ever seen play, then one of two things is true:

1. You haven't watched NFL football games for very long, or

2. You need to hold your breath because there are some bad QBs out there that you are about to see.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Bruce Gradkowski and Ken Dorsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Kellen Clements.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Cleo Lemon.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Dan Orlovsky, Drew Stanton and the other Lions' QB whose name escapes me at the moment.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Jordan Palmer.

Tarvaris Jackson is about the same as Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Patrick Ramsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Mark Brunell.

Those are just a few of the people currently employed in the NFL as QBs who are not as good as Tarvaris Jackson and who play worse than he does.

If you want to go back into history to find some truly bad QBs, start by looking through the ranks of those who have played QB for the Chicago Bears since Sid Luckman retired in the 50s.

The Vikings should be looking to upgrade the QB position in the off-season but keep in mind that they can do worse than what they have...

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

maroonandblack30:

Tarvaris Jackson is not a good QB at the NFL level; no argument there. He may never become a good QB at the NFL level; time will tell. But if he is the worst you have ever seen play, then one of two things is true:

1. You haven't watched NFL football games for very long, or

2. You need to hold your breath because there are some bad QBs out there that you are about to see.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Bruce Gradkowski and Ken Dorsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Kellen Clements.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Cleo Lemon.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Dan Orlovsky, Drew Stanton and the other Lions' QB whose name escapes me at the moment.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Jordan Palmer.

Tarvaris Jackson is about the same as Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Patrick Ramsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Mark Brunell.

Those are just a few of the people currently employed in the NFL as QBs who are not as good as Tarvaris Jackson and who play worse than he does.

If you want to go back into history to find some truly bad QBs, start by looking through the ranks of those who have played QB for the Chicago Bears since Sid Luckman retired in the 50s.

The Vikings should be looking to upgrade the QB position in the off-season but keep in mind that they can do worse than what they have...

Thanks for the thesis but I said STARTING QB. Little different.

I would argue that Fitzpatrick and Orlovsky are better than Jackson too...but I won't since it isn't worth the effort....they all suck to varying degrees

[hooskins]

Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

maroonandblack30:

Tarvaris Jackson is not a good QB at the NFL level; no argument there. He may never become a good QB at the NFL level; time will tell. But if he is the worst you have ever seen play, then one of two things is true:

1. You haven't watched NFL football games for very long, or

2. You need to hold your breath because there are some bad QBs out there that you are about to see.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Bruce Gradkowski and Ken Dorsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Kellen Clements.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Cleo Lemon.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Dan Orlovsky, Drew Stanton and the other Lions' QB whose name escapes me at the moment.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Jordan Palmer.

Tarvaris Jackson is about the same as Ryan Fitzpatrick.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Patrick Ramsey.

Tarvaris Jackson is better than Mark Brunell.

Those are just a few of the people currently employed in the NFL as QBs who are not as good as Tarvaris Jackson and who play worse than he does.

If you want to go back into history to find some truly bad QBs, start by looking through the ranks of those who have played QB for the Chicago Bears since Sid Luckman retired in the 50s.

The Vikings should be looking to upgrade the QB position in the off-season but keep in mind that they can do worse than what they have...

Dude he is not better than Brunell. Granted he wasn't the greatest towards the end of his carreer, but look at overall numbers and they are pretty damn good.

[sportscurmudgeon]

hooskins:

In 2007 and 08, Tarvaris Jackson is a better QB than Mark Brunell. And he will be better than Brunell in 2009 too. Brunell went over the waterfall somewhere around the middle of 2006.


maroonandblack30:

JaMarcus Russel starts most of the time for the Raiders. Tarvaris Jackson is as good as Russell and maybe better.


Shaun Hill started most of the later games this year for the 49ers. Is he that much better than Jackson? I think they are equally mediocre/suub-par.


If you call Alex Smith or JT O'Sullivan the starting QB for the 49ers, then Jackson is better than both of them.


Brodie Croyle was the starter in KC until he was hurt. Jackson is not worse than Croyle - - he's not much better either.


Tyler Thigpen took over for Croyle. Jackson is probably a bit worse than Thigpen but not a lot.


None of the Browns' QBs - as in not a single one of the four who started games thie year - showed in 2008 that they were any better than Tarvaris Jackson except for the fact that two of them (Anderson and Quinn) both make tons more money than Jackson does.


Remember, I said that Jackson was not a good NFL QB and may never turn into one. But he isn't the worst QB in the NFL and he isn't the worst starting QB in the NFL.

[The Goat]

Originally Posted by firstdown

I knew a Farve thread was coming. Farve is done. His body is done. His arm is done.

Uhh... he still has that other arm to work with and I'll put money on Brett throwing lefty over any other QB in the league!!!

[Trample the Elderly]

I'd rather have Favre on my roster than scum bags brothers Vick.

[SirClintonPortis]

Well, all I'll say is that the Jets will look forever stupid for firing their head coach for Favre's ego if Favre retires again.