Redskins Win In Appeals Court

sportscurmudgeon · 05-15-2009, 02:13 PM

The Skins won in the Appeals Court on the suit challenging the team's nickname as being racist. Unfortunately, it was decided on a technicality and not on the issue of the propriety of the nickname - - meaning that there can and probably will be further lawsuits on this matter.

Now, if the team can be equally successful on the field in the 2009 season ...

over the mountain · 05-15-2009, 02:26 PM

firsts!!!!! (j/k)

wilsowilso · 05-15-2009, 02:30 PM

I wouldn't freak out if the team decided or was forced to change the name. It wouldn't change a single Redskin fan's passion for the team.

Maybe it would if they came up with a crazy name like the Wizards.

GridIron26 · 05-15-2009, 02:39 PM

Well of course not, I don't think any Redskins fan chose to be the fan based on the logo or colors (I hope not!).. But if Redskins lost and is forced to change the logo - I think it would be absolutely weird.. I will continue rooting for the team but I just have hard time imagining the team with other kind of logo..

05-15-2009, 05:54 PM

Im happy the Skins won because it would feel weird calling the Redskins something else. Honestly though the team name imo is racist. If they changed it it wouldnt bother me as much as other Redskins fans.

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Originally Posted by GridIron26

Well of course not, I don't think any Redskins fan chose to be the fan based on the logo or colors (I hope not!)

Actually the colors were one of many reasons why I started liking the Redskins as a kid. I dont understand why you would hope not?

GridIron26 · 05-16-2009, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Actually the colors were one of many reasons why I started liking the Redskins as a kid. I don't understand why you would hope not?

I meant I hope Redskins fans aren't supporting the team only because of the colors.. But really, it doesn't matter any fans are welcome

steveo395 · 05-15-2009, 02:43 PM

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

Skinny Tee · 05-15-2009, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

I really agree with you.

Some people just want to take trivial issues and try to impose their beliefs on them to make it seem like they've made a some kind of impact on the world around them.

If you are that put out by the name of the team then I suggest you don't cheer for them. It's a much cheaper solution and I won't have to have your beliefs imposed on me.

Giantone · 05-15-2009, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Skinny Tee

I really agree with you.

Some people just want to take trivial issues and try to impose their beliefs on them to make it seem like they've made a some kind of impact on the world around them.

If you are that put out by the name of the team then I suggest you don't cheer for them. It's a much cheaper solution and I won't have to have your beliefs imposed on me.

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

SmootSmack · 05-15-2009, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

To many it's not a big deal

'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East- nbcsports.msnbc.com

Giantone · 05-15-2009, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

To many it's not a big deal

'Redskins' mascot acceptable, poll says - NFC East- nbcsports.msnbc.com

I understand that but to a growing number it is.

Hog1 · 05-16-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

In our ultra-sensitive world it is natural to assume this, but take the Florida Seminoles for example. Same type of thing. AND many whites get all crazy about sueing them to change, /trivializing, and degrading Native Americans, etcs.
Last year I heard one of the heads of the Seminole Nation answer questions on the matter. Although the white interviewer tried.....desperately to enrage the Seminole leader on the issue. The NA's response was "I personally am proud to have our name thought of in such high regard. I consider it a complement that so many non NA's would consider it so"
Oh well.............

70Chip · 05-16-2009, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Giantone

NO, not close!
To many Native Americans ...the word Redskin ...has the same connotation as the "N" word does for African Americans ,to them it's not trivial.........not by a long shot!

If your living in squalor on some Indian Reservation, the name and trademarks of a football team 1000 miles away are the very definition of trivial. Non-trivial things might include food, clean water, medicine, shelter, etc.

bigm29 · 05-16-2009, 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by steveo395

Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems.

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

05-16-2009, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by bigm29

Same applies to the N word. who really cares... get over it

Thats kinda the problem. Just like the N word is a racist remark towards blacks the word Redskin is a racist remark towards Indians. If you were a Indian living in Washington DC are you telling me you wouldnt be offended at Redskin fans wearing t-shirts and caps that say Redskins? It would be like a Africian-American living in DC and seeing the N word on t-shirts and hats.

Now when I say this im just giving a different point of view. I know Redskin fans respect and honor Indians. We all wear our Burgundy & Gold in pride. Im happy we won another case that lets us keep the name Redskins, logo, etc. Im just giving a different point of view from the other side. If I was a Indian I would probably be offended in todays society seeing the word Redskins as a team of a US Pro Football Franchise.

I know not all Indians care about the name but I can understand the other point of view of the Indians that do.

05-15-2009, 02:13 PM	#1
sportscurmudgeon Playmaker Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 3,159	Redskins Win In Appeals Court The Skins won in the Appeals Court on the suit challenging the team's nickname as being racist. Unfortunately, it was decided on a technicality and not on the issue of the propriety of the nickname - - meaning that there can and probably will be further lawsuits on this matter. Now, if the team can be equally successful on the field in the 2009 season ... __________________ The Sports Curmudgeon www.sportscurmudgeon.com But don't get me wrong, I love sports...

05-15-2009, 02:26 PM	#2
over the mountain Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: close to the edge Posts: 4,926	Re: Redskins Win In Appeals Court firsts!!!!! (j/k) __________________ Life is brutal, but beautiful

05-15-2009, 02:30 PM	#3
wilsowilso Registered User Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Los Angeles Age: 52 Posts: 2,841	Re: Redskins Win In Appeals Court I wouldn't freak out if the team decided or was forced to change the name. It wouldn't change a single Redskin fan's passion for the team. Maybe it would if they came up with a crazy name like the Wizards. Last edited by wilsowilso; 05-15-2009 at 05:47 PM.

05-15-2009, 02:39 PM	#4
GridIron26 Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Colorado Age: 37 Posts: 3,589	Re: Redskins Win In Appeals Court Well of course not, I don't think any Redskins fan chose to be the fan based on the logo or colors (I hope not!).. But if Redskins lost and is forced to change the logo - I think it would be absolutely weird.. I will continue rooting for the team but I just have hard time imagining the team with other kind of logo..

05-15-2009, 02:43 PM	#7
steveo395 The Starter Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: New Jersey Posts: 1,674	Re: Redskins Win In Appeals Court Why do people keep suing the Redskins for their name? Who really cares. Is it really going to make these peoples lives any better if there is no team named the Redskins anymore? If somebody really gets offended that easily I think they have bigger problems. __________________

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