Jason Taylor to re-sign with the Dolphins

[wilsowilso]

The Titans traded us Albert Haynesworth for a third round pick from the league.

Now that is a crazy trade!

[skinsfan69]

Well the main reason I wasn't for this trade was JT was not training during the off season, the price was too steep and we had a quality starter that could fill in for Daniels. I just wish the FO would have confidence in the players we have here instead of ALWAYS chasing other teams players.

[Meks]

Losers.

[53Fan]

I didn't like the trade from the beginning. I would've rather that Evans and Wilson been given a chance and we keep our second round pick. Especially the way Wilson came on at the end the year before. I also didn't like the idea of MW being let go and the thinking that JT could take his spot. That kind of thinking was BS from the get-go. I realize MW wasn't let go because of JT, but thinking he could step in and play his spot was ridiculous IMO. But as misguided as it sometimes is, I still think the FO does what it thinks is best for the team. Unfortunately they thought JT would come in and get 10 sacks and Carter would possibly do the same and it didn't turn out that way. Time to move on. Rock and roll Orakpo! As far as JT goes, I wasn't that much of a fan before he signed with us, even less so now. I don't really care what he does.

[NM Redskin]

JT is an idiot, he could have made 9 million here instead he is making 1.1 with the dolphins.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Well if I recall correctly a pretty large majority of fans approved of the move at the time. If he doesn't get hurt things could have turned out much different.

Retarded moves happen all over the league not just with the Skins.

I liked the move when we made it. And if Taylor hadn't gotten hurt, I would probably still like the trade. But he did get hurt, and while that isn't the fault of FO, we still ultimately got robbed as far as what we gave up for what we got.

I'm not crapping on our FO for this one. I'm just shaking my head while congratulating Parcells for working us over.

Originally Posted by GMScud

Well, it's official. Parcells bent us over.

Well one good thing came out of the trade. When we traded for Jason Taylor we lost 2nd (2009) and 6th round (2010) picks. The biggest reason we couldnt trade up and get Mark Sanchez was because the Redskins had no 2nd round pick. The Redskins not being able to move up and get Sanchez lucked out and were able to draft Brian Orakpo with the 13th overall pick.

We did lose the 2nd round pick but it comes down to one thing. Would you rather have Mark Sanchez or Brian Orakpo? Id rather have Orakpo hands down.

I actually think in a weird kinda way Parcells saved us.

[DBUCHANON101]

funny how that worked out.

[johno]

go home, we dont need you anyways. orakpo, nuff said.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Well one good thing came out of the trade. When we traded for Jason Taylor we lost 2nd (2009) and 6th round (2010) picks. The biggest reason we couldnt trade up and get Mark Sanchez was because the Redskins had no 2nd round pick. The Redskins not being able to move up and get Sanchez lucked out and were able to draft Brian Orakpo with the 13th overall pick.

We did lose the 2nd round pick but it comes down to one thing. Would you rather have Mark Sanchez or Brian Orakpo? Id rather have Orakpo hands down.

I actually think in a weird kinda way Parcells saved us.

Yeah weird how it worked out. Could be for the best in the long run. If that ends up being the case giving up that 2nd rounder could be a great move.

[T.O.Killa]

He is a no good Bastard!!!!!!!

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

Well one good thing came out of the trade. When we traded for Jason Taylor we lost 2nd (2009) and 6th round (2010) picks. The biggest reason we couldnt trade up and get Mark Sanchez was because the Redskins had no 2nd round pick. The Redskins not being able to move up and get Sanchez lucked out and were able to draft Brian Orakpo with the 13th overall pick.

We did lose the 2nd round pick but it comes down to one thing. Would you rather have Mark Sanchez or Brian Orakpo? Id rather have Orakpo hands down.

I actually think in a weird kinda way Parcells saved us.

Eh. Not so sure about all that. There are plenty of hypotheticals you can throw around. I'm not saying I want Sanchez. Not at all in fact. And I'm tired of other teams (Dolphins, Jets, Bears) saving us from ourselves.

You say we lucked out by getting Orakpo, but the guy has done exactly nothing thus far. We'll see how lucky we are (frankly I think he's going to be great if we don't eff around and try to make him a LB).

If Jason Taylor hadn't gotten hurt, he would have likely had double digit sacks for us, which could have opened the flood gates for Andre Carter as well. Given that, maybe we'd have won another game or two (considering how close some of our losses were). In which case we wouldn't be lamenting trading that 2nd round pick. Plus we may have made the playoffs, and then Danny most likely wouldn't be scrambling to trade Campbell. Also, as far as this year's draft goes, with or without Jason Taylor or our 2nd round pick, we'd still need DE/OLB.

My point is, you can "what if" this thing to death. Also, it's totally premature to call us "lucky" for landing Orakpo (especially since we're intent on changing his position. If we wanted a LB we should have drafted one).

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Mattyk72

Yeah weird how it worked out. Could be for the best in the long run. If that ends up being the case giving up that 2nd rounder could be a great move.

Sure, it could be great because a positive result has a chance of falling in our lap, not because it was part of any sort of plan.

I'd love for us to look smart on purpose for a change.

(Please no one ring off a list of draft picks for me. I know. I'm talking about FA).

Originally Posted by GMScud

Eh. Not so sure about all that. There are plenty of hypotheticals you can throw around. I'm not saying I want Sanchez. Not at all in fact. And I'm tired of other teams (Dolphins, Jets, Bears) saving us from ourselves.

I agree that I wish our front office would make better decisions. I dont think this team will until Snyder lets a real GM handle this team. I got to admit though I think the Phins in the long run will have saved us because we didnt have the 2nd rounder.

Originally Posted by GMScud

You say we lucked out by getting Orakpo, but the guy has done exactly nothing thus far. We'll see how lucky we are (frankly I think he's going to be great if we don't eff around and try to make him a LB).

I agree he hasnt done anything for us at this point. Im basing it off of how good I think Orakpo will be and how most fans in general believe we got a steal at 13.

Originally Posted by GMScud

If Jason Taylor hadn't gotten hurt, he would have likely had double digit sacks for us, which could have opened the flood gates for Andre Carter as well. Given that, maybe we'd have won another game or two (considering how close some of our losses were). In which case we wouldn't be lamenting trading that 2nd round pick. Plus we may have made the playoffs, and then Danny most likely wouldn't be scrambling to trade Campbell. Also, as far as this year's draft goes, with or without Jason Taylor or our 2nd round pick, we'd still need DE/OLB.

I liked the move to bring Taylor to DC and I believe if he didnt get hurt he would of had alot more games like he did week 16 vs the Eagles.

We would of needed a DE either way but if we didnt trade for Taylor we wouldnt of gotten one. We would of shipped our 1st, 2nd, and maybe more and leaped the Jets to get Sanchez.

Originally Posted by GMScud

My point is, you can "what if" this thing to death. Also, it's totally premature to call us "lucky" for landing Orakpo (especially since we're intent on changing his position. If we wanted a LB we should have drafted one).

I dont think im "what if" ing it to death per say. Im just bringing up something that imo is a fact knowing Snyder and from what Cerrato has said. If the Redskins didnt trade for Taylor we would of shipped the 2nd rd pick along with others to land Sanchez. The Skins not having that pick saved us from trading a boatload of picks for a overrated QB and we landed probably one of the top 5 players in the draft instead.

I agree it may be premature to be calling us lucky because he hasnt played a down for the Burgundy & Gold. I do have to say the reason im high on Orakpo and think we were lucky was because I honestly believed before the draft he was the best player in it. For the Skins to be able to finally get a guy who I think can rush the passer and perform at a high level is just mind blowing when you think about how long we have needed a defensive end who could get sacks year in and out.

If im wrong ill be eating crow for years on this board since my screen name is "Brian Orakpo" but I honestly believe he has HOF type potenial (I know that sounds crazy because hes a rookie but its my opinion) if he stays healthy. His combo of power and speed from the defensive end position has me so stoked for this season just to get a little taste of whats to come.

I dont like the Skins playing him at LB on 1st and 2nd down but at the worst its a 1 year deal. He will end up playing defensive end for the Skins for years.

[GMScud]

Originally Posted by Brian Orakpo

I agree that I wish our front office would make better decisions. I dont think this team will until Snyder lets a real GM handle this team. I got to admit though I think the Phins in the long run will have saved us because we didnt have the 2nd rounder.

I agree he hasnt done anything for us at this point. Im basing it off of how good I think Orakpo will be and how most fans in general believe we got a steal at 13.

I liked the move to bring Taylor to DC and I believe if he didnt get hurt he would of had alot more games like he did week 16 vs the Eagles.

We would of needed a DE either way but if we didnt trade for Taylor we wouldnt of gotten one. We would of shipped our 1st, 2nd, and maybe more and leaped the Jets to get Sanchez.

I dont think im "what if" ing it to death per say. Im just bringing up something that imo is a fact knowing Snyder and from what Cerrato has said. If the Redskins didnt trade for Taylor we would of shipped the 2nd rd pick along with others to land Sanchez. The Skins not having that pick saved us from trading a boatload of picks for a overrated QB and we landed probably one of the top 5 players in the draft instead.

I agree it may be premature to be calling us lucky because he hasnt played a down for the Burgundy & Gold. I do have to say the reason im high on Orakpo and think we were lucky was because I honestly believed before the draft he was the best player in it. For the Skins to be able to finally get a guy who I think can rush the passer and perform at a high level is just mind blowing when you think about how long we have needed a defensive end who could get sacks year in and out.

If im wrong ill be eating crow for years on this board since my screen name is "Brian Orakpo" but I honestly believe he has HOF type potenial (I know that sounds crazy because hes a rookie but its my opinion) if he stays healthy. His combo of power and speed from the defensive end position has me so stoked for this season just to get a little taste of whats to come.

I dont like the Skins playing him at LB on 1st and 2nd down but at the worst its a 1 year deal. He will end up playing defensive end for the Skins for years.

I agree with pretty much everything you're saying here. All I was saying is that you can argue hypotheticals for pretty much any situation. I mean, you can easily argue the Jet's would have trumped our offer to Cleveland even if we had that 2nd rounder. With Clemens, Ratliff, and Ainge, their QB situation is way worse than ours. Desperate in fact. Who's to say they wouldn't have shipped off the entire draft for Sanchez? They wanted him BAAAAD.

And IMO we'll look a lot more "lucky" for landing Rak if we make him an every down DE. If ain't broke don't fix it. The same reason Blache is planning on letting Big Al freelance at DT....