Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

because they had good offensive lines......players like barry sanders dont come around all the time.....all of the other players you mentioned played on good teams with good offensive lines regardless of whatever garbage you think you pointed out.....

is LT a hall of famer without his offensive line and fullback? is emmit smith the all time leading rusher without he cowboys offensive line? NO.....they are not

for some reason you think you are right about this but you arent....its so blatantly obvious that you know nothin about the offensive line and its making the rest of the redskins fans look bad



i keep citing last season because people continue to claim that he has been struggling for more than just this season.....read the thread dude

the fact is that portis is struggling because he is hurt and because the team is bad......not because he is bad

im telling you that you are blinded by the fact that your team is losing

but your too blind to see that as well

open your eyes..portis is not the problem......so what if he doesnt practice.....thats not a bad thing, especially if he can still produce on sunday.....its a bad thing if he doesnt practice and stinks on sundays.....but he doesnt

why would you want your best running back and one of the highest paid players on the team to get hurt doing something as silly as running drills in practice when the only thing that matters is sundays?

1) you completely failed to appreciate the fact that the offensive lines for those players CHANGED - some years they had good lines, some years they did not. Some years Emmitt Smith ran behind mediocre offensive lines and he still got the job done.

What this means is that your original claim that the running game ALWAYS hinges ONLY on the offensive line was simplistic and mistaken. As usual, you see reality in terms of black-and-white (sometimes literally), when in fact reality consists of shades of gray.

2) what you fail to appreciate about Portis is that he has not brought it on Sundays this year. Saying that only Sundays matter just highlights Portis' deficiencies this year.

As always, you are too small of a person to admit when you are wrong.

[BaltimoreSkins]

Zorn has said Portis is the starter when he comes back. I hope he changes his mind. Betts has looked good in both the Atlanta and Denver games.

[PennSkinsFan]

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[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

1) you completely failed to appreciate the fact that the offensive lines for those players CHANGED - some years they had good lines, some years they did not. Some years Emmitt Smith ran behind mediocre offensive lines and he still got the job done.

lmao......emmitt played for the cowboys from 1990 to 2002.....every single one of those teams was a competitor....they won the division 6 of his 13 seasons there....they were a playoff team 8 of those years and they won the super bowl 3 times in that span

the cowboys were good because of their offensive line and they were consistant because of their offensive line......sure it changed......but not significantly enough to downgrade the run game....it was continuity that created the cowboys dynasty......

people like you probably think it was emmitt smith and troy aikman that made those cowboys teams great.....lol.....get real......they were both very average players on a well built team with a stellar offensive line......go look at their stats.....not one season stands out as exceptional but they did it over a long period of time because they had the offensive line in front of them to give them time and make big holes

What this means is that your original claim that the running game ALWAYS hinges ONLY on the offensive line was simplistic and mistaken. As usual, you see reality in terms of black-and-white (sometimes literally), when in fact reality consists of shades of gray.

lol.....cant handle the truth? life is simple brother....either you get it or you dont.....whether you are black or white or shades of gray

2) what you fail to appreciate about Portis is that he has not brought it on Sundays this year. Saying that only Sundays matter just highlights Portis' deficiencies this year.

blah blah blah.....the whole team stinks on sundays......not just portis.....and the rest of the team practices all week? whats their excuse?

and i wont take a personal shot at you like you did me.....good luck trying to prove me wrong again tho.....and black people are faster

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

lmao......emmitt played for the cowboys from 1990 to 2002.....every single one of those teams was a competitor....they won the division 6 of his 13 seasons there....they were a playoff team 8 of those years and they won the super bowl 3 times in that span

the cowboys were good because of their offensive line and they were consistant because of their offensive line......sure it changed......but not significantly enough to downgrade the run game....it was continuity that created the cowboys dynasty......

people like you probably think it was emmitt smith and troy aikman that made those cowboys teams great.....lol.....get real......they were both very average players on a well built team with a stellar offensive line......go look at their stats.....not one season stands out as exceptional but they did it over a long period of time because they had the offensive line in front of them to give them time and make big holes



lol.....cant handle the truth? life is simple brother....either you get it or you dont.....whether you are black or white or shades of gray



blah blah blah.....the whole team stinks on sundays......not just portis.....and the rest of the team practices all week? whats their excuse?

and i wont take a personal shot at you like you did me.....good luck trying to prove me wrong again tho.....and black people are faster

1) There you go with the unclear thinking again. The fact is that the Cowboys struggled on the offensive line in the late '90's. This is one reason why they weren't winning Super Bowls in that period. Yet Emmitt got it done. Once again you have lambasted me for not "getting" your point, with no self awareness on your part that you are dead wrong. Of course, as we all know here, you have proven to be incapable of admitting that you are wrong.

2) Actually you already have taken personal shots at me. Too late to try to disingenuously take the high road.

3) There you go again, making more racist comments as if we existed in the 19th century.

I often teach my students that racism is dumb. Your arguments are exhibit A now.

[dgw090767]

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Originally Posted by SOUL-SKINS
I dunno know guys but with Portis out the offense looked alot better.
Portis slows our offense down it seems. What do u guys think?

I've yet to see the improvement. We still have the same whopping 17 points.


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I don't get your point even if you take away the special team touch down they scored 20 pionts. I don't know where you learned math, but where I did 20 is more than 17......hunh?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

1) There you go with the unclear thinking again. The fact is that the Cowboys struggled on the offensive line in the late '90's. This is one reason why they weren't winning Super Bowls in that period. Yet Emmitt got it done. Once again you have lambasted me for not "getting" your point, with no self awareness on your part that you are dead wrong. Of course, as we all know here, you have proven to be incapable of admitting that you are wrong.

2) Actually you already have taken personal shots at me. Too late to try to disingenuously take the high road.

3) There you go again, making more racist comments as if we existed in the 19th century.

I often teach my students that racism is dumb. Your arguments are exhibit A now.

do you teach your students to count too? cuz you clearly have no idea what portis actually means to your team

you might want to try another argument rather than just saying im wrong because you arent proving anything by saying that.....

and no matter what you say about how racist i am, it doesnt change the truth.....blacks are faster.....even tho this is a completely different thread....why dont you try to prove to me why you think they arent faster

oh wait.....im an ignorant racist so all my aruments are wrong....im too small to admit im wrong so you must be right? lol.....your passive aggressive take at trying to prove me wrong is completely off base on so many levels.....why dont you prove to me that you're the bigger man.....and walk away

[Lotus]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

do you teach your students to count too? cuz you clearly have no idea what portis actually means to your team

you might want to try another argument rather than just saying im wrong because you arent proving anything by saying that.....

and no matter what you say about how racist i am, it doesnt change the truth.....blacks are faster.....even tho this is a completely different thread....why dont you try to prove to me why you think they arent faster

oh wait.....im an ignorant racist so all my aruments are wrong....im too small to admit im wrong so you must be right? lol.....your passive aggressive take at trying to prove me wrong is completely off base on so many levels.....why dont you prove to me that you're the bigger man.....and walk away

No, your arguments are wrong because your facts are wrong. Own your mistake.

Here at the Warpath we try to have intelligent discussions about football. We can't do that with people who make dumb arguments and then cannot admit that they are wrong. So you can count on continued grief from other people here.

You can also count on continued grief from me. Anyone who has any sense of history knows how destructive racism is within American society. Because of this, you can be certain that I will continue to dog you, RacistLegend.

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by Lotus

No, your arguments are wrong because you don't know what you are talking about when it comes to football.

Here at the Warpath we try to have intelligent discussions about football. We can't do that with people who make dumb arguments and then cannot admit that they are wrong. So you can count on continued grief from other people here.

You can also count on continued grief from me. Anyone who has any sense of history knows how destructive racism is within American society. Because of this, you can be certain that I will continue to dog you, RacistLegend.

lol sticks and stones buddy

you're not going to offend me at all.....no matter what you say to me or how you say it......nobody else here takes things as seriously as you because why? FOOTBALL IS A GAME

nobody gives me grief.....nobody cares about what i have to say....i just spit my 2 cents and hope it catches someones eye.....you do the exact same and expect people to jump to your rescue when you cant back it up.....none of your posts have any helpful information on them and none of them have any sound arguments in them either

arguing with you is like arguing with my mother in law.....no matter how stupid it is....you just have to be right......even at the expense of looking goofy

[SolidSnake84]

We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the offensive line is always the reason for a good running game......ALWAYS.....

portis doesnt get the help from the offensive line that betts got.....he doesnt get the same defensive looks when he is in the game

some of you guys are no better than your teams owner.....you are completely blinded by the fact that your team is struggling this year.....clinton portis is easily your best player.....easily a top 5 running back in the league on a bottom 5 team in the league......you guys make me laugh

Ahhh so you're a GM I take it?

[tryfuhl]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

.portis is still a top 5 back despite being injured and playing behind a terrible line, and terrible team

Now who sounds like our owner?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by tryfuhl

Now who sounds like our owner?

Freeze!!! Put the crack pipe down! Back away from the monitor slowly.......7:38AM? and I see you still on your all night crack binge. SMH

[maroonandblack30]

anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.

You are a Jim Zorn fan. Why??? Portis is hurt, we need another stud to go along wiht Portis. We jsut need a good young runningback to boost the RB corps.