Portis is a BIG problem!!!

[irish]

Originally Posted by SolidSnake84

We just all need to relax here. I didnt sense any racism in these posts.. There is no racism on this board. That is the kind of garbage you see over at extremeskins, trust me on that guys.

I dont think anybody can deny that the offense has looked better with Portis out. I can't scientifically say why, but we can look at the stat sheets and see where the other backs have made more of a difference. Are they as good all around as Portis? Probably not. But Portis hasn't been healthy since last year, and he is showing his age and is in a decline...Portis has tons of carries and lots of total yardage, and at some point any back breaks down.

I think they could maximize what he has left by using him in a 50/50 type role like other teams do. But i dont see him personally going for that....

I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by irish

I think a big reason the back-ups are running better than Portis is that they are actually practicing with the line while CP sits out of practice nursing injuries. Practicing with the line has given the back-ups a sense of timing the holes and the line has a sense of the backs timing in hitting those holes. CP just hasnt practiced enough to develop that sense of timing with the line and as a result his performance has suffered.

i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. Practices are gonna be missed. It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????

[MTK]

Portis has never been much for practice even during his better seasons. More than anything he's just not 100% this year, he hasn't been from the start. Hopefully he can get those bone spurs cleaned up in the offseason and be back to the Portis of old, or close to it.

[irish]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

i would agree, but Betts is missing practice now. It's a grueling job to be a smashmouth runningback. Practices are gonna be missed. It makes it hard with the line itself in flux. It's just a down year for Portis, you don't get rid of a work horse that quickly. Betts has had his chances before and has fumbled them away. I am scared of what might happen. People are saying Portis misses practices Why???? Why, the same reason Betts is missing practices this week. Remember when he played in that preseason game and hurt his shoulder? People!!! don't think this is not a normal situtaion. Riggo drinking booze at the practice facility? Joey T needs to man up. Gibbs let Riggo get away with the same stuff. In the interview, Gibbs said he let him do what he wanted. Riggo had Kelvin Bryant and Joe Washington. Remember????

True, practices will be missed and Betts will miss some this week but he has practiced much more that CP this year. My point is that I cant remember the last time CP had a full week of practice. I know he's dinged and its a viscious circle where CP cant practice because he's dinged and he isnt productive because he cant practice. Practice is important for timing and right now CP just cant get enough reps to get his timing down.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

You are a Jim Zorn fan. Why??? Portis is hurt, we need another stud to go along wiht Portis. We jsut need a good young runningback to boost the RB corps.

Who said Im a Zorn fan? Are you basing that off of my avatar? So I guess that you are a parrot fan?

Im not a Zorn fan, Im a Skins fan.

In regards to Portis.....he needs to be gone, get the young stud to go along with Betts

[joethiesmanfan]

What you gonna do when Betts gets dinged and fatigued and has an off year? Get rid of Betts?

[joethiesmanfan]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Who said Im a Zorn fan? Are you basing that off of my avatar? So I guess that you are a parrot fan?

Damn skippy!!!

[joethiesmanfan]

Ultimately we gonna need Portis soon.

[SolidSnake84]

For what? To insult the team and throw everybody under the bus when we are mathmatically eliminated from the playoffs in a few weeks?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

anyone who says CP is a top 5 back is clueless...you really cant think of more than 4 RBs who you would rather have?

CP is the 3rd best RB on his team.

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

[Monkeydad]

Heard Zorn this morning say that Portis will start when he comes back, but will be pulled for Betts if he's ineffective. Also, Zorn stated that Portis will not be allowed to come back until he completes a full week of practice.

If he sticks to his word, I'm fine with Portis starting again. With Levi Jones and Chad Rhinehart helping out the line, maybe CP can do something productive again.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by joethiesmanfan

What you gonna do when Betts gets dinged and fatigued and has an off year? Get rid of Betts?

Its not about having an off year (at least in my opinion), Portis is done, he is a shell of what he was in Denver and in his first couple years here.

He will never be a premier RB in the NFL again.

Portis appears to be a lazy, G'd up wanna be superstar that can get away with anything he wants.

team cancer.

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

Once again...have you watched a single Redskins game this year?

[CantonLegend]

Originally Posted by maroonandblack30

Its not about having an off year (at least in my opinion), Portis is done, he is a shell of what he was in Denver and in his first couple years here.

He will never be a premier RB in the NFL again.

Portis appears to be a lazy, G'd up wanna be superstar that can get away with anything he wants.

team cancer.

i think somebody said the same thing about kurt warner

somebody said somethin similar about bill belichick when he got kicked out of cleveland

probably said the same thing about brett favre

yea.....theres never been anybody in the league to bounce back after a down year....especially not anybody older than 27

[maroonandblack30]

Originally Posted by CantonLegend

the stats support it

this year he is injured.....last year brady was injured but was still considered a top QB in the league.....even tho portis is hurt he is still considered a top running back in this league

even if its not by the fans of his own team

anyone who thinks portis isnt a good back is delusional

ive read your opinions of portis over the season and its obvious you spear head things when it comes to portis hating.....right now everybody is upset so they grab on to every pessimistic view of whatever anybody wants to talk about....but that gets in the way of facts

some thread about how many backs are worse than portis? are you really using a season in which he is injured and your redskins stink to judge whether the running back that is basically asked to carry your team is still talented?

...amazing

Im not hating...I don't think he is good, thats my observation from watching every game of his Redskins career. Just my opinion, but I think its shared by others with way more knowledge of the game.

Im not going to argue that he has put up good numbers in his career, I just think he is done being productive.

I don't get the whole "he is hurt" arguement....he has been hurt for the last 3 years....if he can't or won't prepare his body for an NFL season thats even more of an indication he should hang it up. Bottom line he just comes across as an entitled cry baby with a sub par work ethic....bad for the team.