LOL @ Redskins

[Beemnseven]

Originally Posted by hooskins

Oline and RB blocking was pathetic last night. McNabb had no time whatsoever. That along with AH quitting is just embarrassing.

Terrible defensive play but you can't cut the cord on Haslett just yet. Remember it's Shanny that wanted the 3-4 and told Haslett to implement it. We still don't have the right personnel but there are times we have seen shimmers of what our D can be.

Thank you. Finally some sense. If you put Haslett back in Pittsburgh right now calling their defense, would you still say he sucks and should be fired? Conversly, would Dick LeBeau be able to do any better for us last night if he were the DC? Our defense is old, and the Eagles are way better than us. Plain and simple. There isn't a coach in the world that could have changed the outcome of that game if the players on the field didn't change with them.

[Jontrem]

This won't make sense to anyone who hasn't seen Band of Brothers but Dan Snyder reminds me a lot of Capt Sobel (played by David Shwimmer the friends guy) there is one scene where EZ company is on a training excessive and they know where the other force is and Sobel can't contain himself, he knows that he should stay where he is and let them come to him but he just CAN'T he looks all panic stricken and he HAS to go and get them. Its just like Snyder and free agency he knows its a bad idea but he cant stop himself signing big free agents!

Just to be clear I like Daniel Snyder quite a bit, he is a good human being who has accomplished much in his life and he has given much back to the community.

[Longtimefan]

Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You really can't compare the Wizards/Capitals to the Redskins. Redskins fanhood is on a whole different level. Fans call for firings at the first holding call in a preseason game

This fanbase in many ways seem desperate, grasping for straws, always looking for that someone who can duplicate "Buns" I.

Based on some of the things we witnessed going on at the game last night, the experience is beginning to be a not so plesant one.

[warpaint]

This was The Eagles in their finest hour.Thats all it was. Did we get our ass kicked? Yes. will this happen again to us? No, it was a once in a lifetime game. I will not give up on us, we still have 3 division games left.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by mredskins

I don't think any team goes into a season and public says this a rebuilding year, that would be a PR nightmare.

Yeah nobody admits it, even when it's obvious.

Fact is we turned over 1/3 of the roster, and that will continue next year especially when the big name free agents that were F'd over this year become available.

Doesn't matter what you call it though, if you had high expectations coming into this season sorry but that's your fault for being clueless. I think most reasonable fans were thinking 8-8 with this roster.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by SouperMeister

We are witnessing Michael Vick becoming a complete QB, which is scary. He pretty much won the game against Indy last week, and played about as good a game at QB as I've ever seen tonight. This was more about Vick's great play than the Skins poor play. The guy was unstoppable.

wow what can i say about vick he was incredible! but what the hell has haslet done the last 2 weeks? heads need to roll over this and soon

[SmootSmack]

Originally Posted by warpaint

This was The Eagles in their finest hour.Thats all it was. Did we get our ass kicked? Yes. will this happen again to us? No, it was a once in a lifetime game. I will not give up on us, we still have 3 division games left.

I'm with you

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Yeah nobody admits it, even when it's obvious.

Fact is we turned over 1/3 of the roster, and that will continue next year especially when the big name free agents that were F'd over this year become available.

Doesn't matter what you call it though, if you had high expectations coming into this season sorry but that's your fault for being clueless. I think most reasonable fans were thinking 8-8 with this roster.

I would hope any reasonable person wouldn't expect us to be playing for home field advantage. However, when you go out and pay $100million for this guy, $7 million for the best coach out there, trading for McNabb, Jamaal Brown to help solidify the oline, you do kind of think we would win those "winable" games. And at least be in the mix for a wild-card. Which we still are. Only two games out of the division with two games against the Giants still on the schedule. So, we aren't done by any means. But Redskins fans as a whole buy into the hype quicker than any team in the NFL. I went from 7-9 to 9-7 as an early prediction, and think it is still possible. I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by tjmorgan

Unfortunately, I have a very bad feeling that this is the start of the downward spiral for us this year.

the way our oline played the last couple of games is very alarming in the sense that the plays were running are going to get mcnabb killed. So we must not be able to adjust anything so he has time to throw the ball.I think they are worn down already.

[redskinjim]

Originally Posted by huntz

Monday night was a disgrace! Comin' off the bye...and see this! Tried to pound square pegs into round holes with the 3-4 D this season...it isn't working!!!! WILL NOT beat Titans on Sunday...can't beat an AFC opponent. And the new contract...unbelievable!!!! Lucky to win 2 games rest of season. OOONOOOO we suck again!!!!!

yes it is true 2 games we suck again

[SBXVII]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I just dont get where Eagle fans should be upset. They have been one of the more dominating teams over the last 10 years. 9 playoff appearances in 11 years. of those 9 - 5 NFC championships, 1 superbowl appearance. I would gladly trade our last 10 years for theirs in a second.

No no you misunderstood me. lol. He's tired of hearing every year that "next year will be the Skins year." and to be honest he's probably right. How many of us sat back over the summer and had to tell people to chill out with the Super Bowl BS? Just cause Shanahan has been there doesn't mean we are going year 1.

If the owner was looking for that I think he should have picked up a HC who would have came in and evaluated the talent on the team and decided to run an offense and defense that worked best for the players we had. Part of Zorn's problem was we didn't have the right personel to run the WCO. I'm trying not to stick up for Zorn here. So what does Snyder pick up? A HC that runs the WCO. It might take 2 to 3 years before we should even be talking playoffs. Then there's the defense.... we are switching from a 4-3 to a 3-4, we don't have the personel to run a 3-4. But we are not doing bad doing it.

Basically I'm saying before fans scream fire someone can we give this HC time to effectively get the team working right? thats all and not expect miracles right from the get go.

I'm severely disappointed in last night but the team has looked better in other games.

[MTK]

Originally Posted by #56fanatic

I would hope any reasonable person wouldn't expect us to be playing for home field advantage. However, when you go out and pay $100million for this guy, $7 million for the best coach out there, trading for McNabb, Jamaal Brown to help solidify the oline, you do kind of think we would win those "winable" games. And at least be in the mix for a wild-card. Which we still are. Only two games out of the division with two games against the Giants still on the schedule. So, we aren't done by any means. But Redskins fans as a whole buy into the hype quicker than any team in the NFL. I went from 7-9 to 9-7 as an early prediction, and think it is still possible. I think people / fans are tired of seeing the same Redskins team every year no matter who the coach is, who the QB is...it just seems we are destined to be mediocore or worse. Last night was just unacceptable, especially coming of a bye week. We looked so unprepared it was ridiculous.

I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.

[SFREDSKIN]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.

And our DC got schooled by their OC. What makes me mad is how in the hell does a D that has been ranked in the top 10 over the last few years is ranked last and allowing a shitload of yards. New system, whatever excuse they want to use, then don't switch if you don't have the personnel.

[#56fanatic]

Originally Posted by Mattyk

I'm really not sure any amount of preparation would have made a difference. We flat out got whupped on the field. Their starting 22 just outplayed our 22, in a big way.

no doubt they wanted it more than we did. But i just go back to a couple of plays during that game. Running 3 straight times on our first series (with a guy that hasn't played at all), then Moss's failed attempt at catching the ball on 3rd down, which led to the 21-0 score. Then Galloway dropping the pass on 3rd down, then its 28-0. If we convert those two third downs i think it is a totally different ball game. Those drives stay alive and maybe we put some points up. It was just so out of control when the 2nd quarter started. Kills me to see old ass Galloway out there. He really does absolutely nothing. No one is scared of him. The single cover him every play which does nothing for any other receiver on the field. I still find it hard to believe Thomas couldn't play infront of this guy.

[over the mountain]

most of us were loving the D when they were getting all those turnovers.

im confused, to be honest this year it is hard for me to see what adjustments we make in game on the d side of the ball. its just hard to tell what kind of D we are playing on any given play watching on the tv.