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JDALY27 03-27-2007, 09:38 AM i actually think this would be a really good deal. briggs would be an upgrade over both washington and macintosh on the outside and we'd still have a first round pick, although much lower. we'd have awesome linebacker depth and would be able to rotate them. briggs is a pro bowl linebacker, this is a good deal if it happens IMO. this is a deep draft, there will be a good player at 31 and would upgrade the defense
That's right! Briggs would be our best defensive player instantly! He's 26 years old and would be a Redskin for many years to come. We still have a first round pick to address the defensive line. Normally a Franchise tag would mean Redskins loose 2 first round picks! We come out of this totally ahead. Only reason we had a shot is Briggs is so unhappy with no long term deal from the Bears. He's made the pro bowl the last 2 years and only a 4 year vet. MAJOR UPGRADE FOR SKINS HERE!!
12thMan 03-27-2007, 09:38 AM I don't like this trade at all. Briggs' capability and talent aside, when is this organization going to learn you can't import chemistry? That's the thing that has shot us in the foot year after year. We've never been short on talent, but always short on hunger, chemistry, and leadership.
If we pull this deal the Redskins will look good on paper yet again, but fail to produce on the field.
I can see it now, five games into the season and Briggs and Fletcher are still 'learning the system'.
We need to run like hell from Rosenhaus and his ink pen!
FRPLG 03-27-2007, 09:40 AM I think we're rationalizing now.
SC Skins Fan 03-27-2007, 09:41 AM KILL THIS DEAL! Let's just hope this is a major smokescreen play by someone who knows what their doing.
Until proven otherwise that would have to involve someone other than Dan Snyder/Vinny C./and (though it pains me to say it) PRESIDENT (as opposed to coach) Joe Gibbs.
EARTHQUAKE2689 03-27-2007, 09:42 AM After sleeping on this the deal as proposed right now doesn't seem that bad to me. Would I want them to do it? No. But remember (as some have already pointed out) the price tag of a franchise player is two first rounders. In this scenario the Skins still keep a 1st rounder and get a franchise quality player. Can anyone deny what a great LB corps this would be with Washington, Fletcher, and Briggs... with Marshall and McIntosh coming off the bench?!
I think the Skins would actually be coming out ahead on this deal if they were to do it, that being said I'm not in favor of it.
i still want an extra pick from them though
Skinny Tee 03-27-2007, 09:43 AM The Skins still need a sack threatening DE and that is not something we are going to get with the 31st overall pick of the Bears. The only way we're getting a sack threatening DE is if we stick with our 6th overall.
A. Carter is a sufficent DE in that department but for the off chance that he goes down it would back to the 25 second window of time that other QBs have had every down against us. That has killed us the past two years.
12thMan 03-27-2007, 09:44 AM One more thing. Do we really think we'll just add another three new faces to this defense and we've solved our ills? I don't buy it.
Why in the hell did we draft Rocky...please save me the maybe he's a bust speech. Appearantly, the guy that was coaching him was a bust!
JDALY27 03-27-2007, 09:44 AM I don't like this trade at all. Briggs' capability and talent aside, when is this organization going to learn you can't import chemistry? That's the thing that has shot us in the foot year after year. We've never been short on talent, but always short on hunger, chemistry, and leadership.
If we pull this deal the Redskins will look good on paper yet again, but fail to produce on the field.
I can see it now, five games into the season and Briggs and Fletcher are still 'learning the system'.
We need to run like hell from Rosenhaus and his ink pen!
Briggs and Fletcher are still learning how to knock somebody in the mouth? Think they know how to do that already dude.
Any rookie we draft at # 6 won't need to learn our system or will come in with instant chemistry??
Beemnseven 03-27-2007, 09:45 AM Let's say Smootsmack's theory on Marcus Washington is right, and he's got a nagging problem that bothers the coaches to the point that they need his replacement right away.
Here's what bothers me: It yet again demonstrates this front office's mental block towards the defensive line. Certainly the same argument could be made with regard to Joe Salave'a. He was nicked up all last year, couldn't hold up against the run, and the statistics against the run prove it. But why isn't there the same type of urgency to plan for his replacement? Here we were in prime position at #6 to get an impact player at his position but now, if these reports are true, they're willing to plummet to #31 where it's certain no defensive lineman will be available with any value.
Didn't Joe Gibbs understand how important it was to have a defensive line made up with the likes of Dave Butz, Daryl Grant, Dexter Manley and Charles Mann? What has happened that has taken his focus away from such a vital element to a strong defense?
Fletcher already knows the system so we can check that one off the list. Briggs is a concern though. He's a good player, no doubt, but how much has he benefited from playing with Urlacher? Would he even be a good fit for this D?
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