Cerrato Vaguely Explains Draft Strategy (with Questionable Evidence)

I've always suspected that Snyder's loyalty with Cerrato lies more so with the very tight friendship Cerrato had with Snyder's father than any relationship they have.

Anyhow, using my front office powers to edit the thread title.

I've always suspected that Snyder's loyalty with Cerrato lies more so with the very tight friendship Cerrato had with Snyder's father than any relationship they have.

Anyhow, using my front office powers to edit the thread title.

whats wrong with my title? Please inform.

whats wrong with my title? Please inform.

See #2

http://www.thewarpath.net/370946-post1.html

Every other post these days is about someone associated with the team, usually Vinny, being an idiot. I thought maybe the thread title for this should be a bit more specific

Vinny being called an idiot is about as specific as you can get. No gray area in that statement.

That is the exact opposite of logic. If you have a position that isn't a need, and then you draft someone at that position because they're the best available THAT is the position you end up with a glut at.

As for the stats on Merling and Campbell he really isn't that far off in a 16 game season. He might not have looked at the stat sheets for a couple of weeks is all.

Cerrato: You know, I think Calais has like 11 tackles

OK so if your not sure of the numbers you say you think so what is the big deal with what he said. He did not state these as facts.

Vinny being called an idiot is about as specific as you can get. No gray area in that statement.


Oh my god, Smootsmack works for Vinny. lol. He's changing the topic sentence on purpose in order to facilitate a more reasonable responce to his boss. lol.

see my point ^ it's already effecting firstdown. lol.

You know I was thinking about starting a thread concerning a similar issue in that we give Vinny shit for not drafting any lineman untill the end of the third round but in looking back I wonder who we could have drafted, and in a way Vinny might have been right about taking the BPA. Still part of me is suspicious considering Snyder's desire to add a playmaking reciever and the corresponding excuse that the recievers and TE selected just happened to be the BPA. Keep in mind I have no objection to Vinny's 2nd round trade down. Personally I thought it was one of the great moves in the draft.

I know the author of the article brought up Phillip Merling but unfortunately Merling is a moot point considering the fact that he was picked before we got a chance to get back onto the clock. Anyway heres a few guys that we should have considered drafting in the second round, keep in mind this doesn't include taking guys like Chris Horton and saying that he should have been taken earlier. This is based on current performance and draft status based on evaluations prior to April.

- Curtis Lofton - LB - Oklahoma - Productive Linebacker for the Falcons, God knows he need help at LB
- Chilo Rachel - G- USC - Would have made sense in terms of getting a lineman but I'm not sure that he was worth being taken this early
- Matt Forte - RB - Tulane - They were considering taking him and personally I wish we would have taken him if he lasted till Fred Davis's spot. He certainly qualifes as a potential best player available. Especially considering the fact that before the season I was concerned about how long Clinton would able to last. For the record love the guy (CP) to death but theres only so much punishment a human being can take
- Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State -Had the physical specs the team wanted in a Reciever and was more productive at the collegiate level then both Thomas and Kelly. Also is having a better year then both of them but that might be because Green Bay is more willing to give him a chance. Talk about keeping the white man down.
- Jordan Dizon - LB - Colorado - Would have made sense for us at WLB, but would have had to have been taken with our first 2nd round pick. Wouldn't have been to popular on draft day.
- Calias Campbell DE - Miami - Probably should have taken him where we took Fred Davis. At the very least it would have saved us a Second Round Pick in 2009. Then again he seems to have a similar playing style and talent level to our very own Demetric Evans.
- Trevor Laws DT - Notre Dame - Would have had to have been taken with our first pick. In retrospect though he's had health problems so maybe we dodged a bullet but still if he had been healthy then he might have been able to provide us with the push we needed up the middle to have an effective pass rush from Carter and Taylor.
- Jeremy Zuttah - OL - Rutgers - Would have been a perfect pick for us and he was available for each one of our 2nd round picks. From what I've heard he's played well and on top of that he can play anywhere on the line.
- Mike Pollack - C - Arizona State - Wouldn't have made a ton of sense on draft day as a lot of us still thought very highly of Rabach at the time but in terms of BPA he should have been high enough to at least recieve strong consideration for getting drafted by us
- Any Cornerback including Porter, Lee, Flowers - Personally I'm glad we didn't use a 2nd round pick on a Corner especially considering the fact that we got a top flight corner for virtually nothing (D. Hall) when originally we considering using a second round pick for.
- Quinton Groves - DE - Auburn - Not sure I would really wanted to get him in retrospect as I think our pass rushing woes aren't exactly a personell problem.
- Pat Sims - DT - Auburn - Looks like he's having a productive season for Bengals in all honesty it looks like he would have been a good fit here
- Ray Rice - RB - Rutgers - Honestly would have rather gotten Kelly.

So in retrospect, knowing how the draft turned out and looking at how this season turned out I think our ideal draft should have been as follows.

34th - Jordy Nelson - WR - Kansas State - They get the big productive Reciever they want, complete with a team first attitude. Not that Thomas has this problem, then again Kelly might but he hasn't shown it since he's been here.
48th - Pat Sims - DT - Auburn - We get the big guy up the middle to help create a push and take pressure off our DE's.
51st - Jerremy Zutah - OL - Rutgers- Would have been perfect for us this year, especially considering he can play everywhere. Probably would be starting at RT this week.

Dirtbag, good post. even though some will say it's easy to look back and say who we should have picked.

Is our D-line salvagable or are we going to be picking new personel? I guess Snyder has to sit down and decide how much change we need and how many new people we will need to bring in on the D line in order to get production. If we are going to bring in 1-2 players in the offseason then I presume we keep Blache and his scheme. If we are going out and getting anymore then that to beef up the D line then I probably would change to a 3-4 which has been doing the past few seasons and hard to figure out where the blitz is coming from.

I think it's funny that, prior to the draft, nearly everyone on this board agreed in the Pioli principle of drafting the best player available. Now that it appears that we need linemen, most people seem to have done a 180. For the record, I've always believed in the "blended" model whereby you take the best player available at a position of need.