Brian Cushing

Rogers is mostly on the block, not because of any personal strife really, but because he's one of our more valuable chips right now. So if you're going to test the trade market then you have to at least make worth the other team's time

As for Kiper's pick, it's not a terrible choice I suppose. He's a solid pass rusher and steady against the run. I'm of the belief that yes we need a pass rusher but not at the expense of a solid run stopper. We like to knock on guys like Daniels and Wynn because they were run-stopping defensive ends, which is almost a euphemsym for "can't rush the passer", but I think we need guys like that. I like someone like Tyson Jackson for example, not at the #13 spot.

Rogers is mostly on the block, not because of any personal strife really, but because he's one of our more valuable chips right now. So if you're going to test the trade market then you have to at least make worth the other team's time

As for Kiper's pick, it's not a terrible choice I suppose. He's a solid pass rusher and steady against the run. I'm of the belief that yes we need a pass rusher but not at the expense of a solid run stopper. We like to knock on guys like Daniels and Wynn because they were run-stopping defensive ends, which is almost a euphemsym for "can't rush the passer", but I think we need guys like that. I like someone like Tyson Jackson for example, not at the #13 spot.

I know Rogers is a nice trade chip but that's exactly why we shouldn't trade him. Basically we traded our #2 pick for a washed up thirtysomething DE...and now to remedy it we are going to trade away our top CB in his prime to get that draft pick back? That is the assinine of all assinine moves!

I know your not endorcing this move...so i am not ranting at you...I am just ranting in general! What an awful line of thinking...

I know Rogers is a nice trade chip but that's exactly why we shouldn't trade him. Basically we traded our #2 pick for a washed up thirtysomething DE...and now to remedy it we are going to trade away our top CB in his prime to get that draft pick back? That is the assinine of all assinine moves!

I know your not endorcing this move...so i am not ranting at you...I am just ranting in general! What an awful line of thinking...

Well I don't agree that Jason Taylor was a washed up but I see your point. If I were a betting man, I'd say Rogers ends up not getting traded unless they get more than a 2nd round pick.

I'm no fan of trading Rogers. But let's say that it is more than just the due diligence by the FO or incessant FO bashing by JLC. Maybe it makes some sense if Rogers really is expecting huge money in free agency (of course, it takes two to tango and I wonder how many teams would be willing to give him big $$$). Anyway, if Rogers were to go, how about the following trade scenario?

Redskins: Rd. 1, Pick 13; Carlos Rogers

Detroit: Rd. 1, Pick 20; Rd. 2, Pick 33; Rd. 3, Pick 65

By the draft value chart that works out to trading Rogers for a 2nd rounder in the bottom third of that round (fair value it seems to me, though not enough value but I guess that is beside the point). I could see Detroit possibly willing to move up in Round 1 if they take a QB at #1 and then want to move up to get the last of the D-Linemen they covet or LB help (MAUALUGA, LAURINAITIS). You know their corners are suspect and Bodden is due a big roster bonus. That would seem a decent trade (until Springs misses half the season and we end up with Hall and Smoot starting with Tryon at the Nickel).

That is no where near enough value. Everyone involved with the Redskins whether it be the FO or the fans seems to totally undervalue Rogers and it's probably becasue he can't catch. However, his primary job is not catching the football it's defending WR's and he's pretty damn good at it. We spent a top 10 pick on him and he's far from a bust so why should we trade him for a low #2? We should be resigning him or at least keeping him for this year and then trying to tag and trade him then if a long term deal can not be reached.

Well I don't agree that Jason Taylor was a washed up but I see your point. If I were a betting man, I'd say Rogers ends up not getting traded unless they get more than a 2nd round pick.

Washed up may have been a bad choice of words but he's an older player. Anyway, I can live with it if they get a #1 for him although I still don't think I would do it.

Well I don't agree that Jason Taylor was a washed up but I see your point. If I were a betting man, I'd say Rogers ends up not getting traded unless they get more than a 2nd round pick.

Being that your "guesses" always seem pretty well educated SS... that is the best news of the day as far as i'm concerned.

Just know that when I say more than a 2nd round pick that I don't necessarily mean higher than a 2nd round pick.

But truthfully I've heard very little about Rogers the past couple of days. Hoping to get some info later today actually

Raji may not even make it past the Bengals at #6

Lot of speculation at this point, but from all I've heard if the draft were today I could see something like

1. Lions-Andre Smith
2. Rams-Eugene Monroe
3. Chiefs-Aaron Curry
4. Seahawks-Michael Crabtree
5. Browns-Malcolm Jenkins
6. Bengals-BJ Raji
7. Raiders-Percy Harvin
8. Jaguars-Jeremy Maclin
9. Packers-Jason Smith
10. 49ers-Mark Sanchez
11. Bills-Brian Orakpo
12. Broncos-Everette Brown

Wich drops Oher into our lap, or the intriguing possibility of Stafford who we definitely don't want (I don't think) but could possibly leverage. The wildcard is that 6-8 spot, because all of those teams could be eyeing a OL there.

2 OT will go in the 6-8 spots, packers go CB, and 49ers go D..i think BJ Raji will be there at 10 and i think the broncos go Maulagula if he's havin' a monster week like everyone is saying

2 OT will go in the 6-8 spots, packers go CB, and 49ers go D..i think BJ Raji will be there at 10 and i think the broncos go Maulagula if he's havin' a monster week like everyone is saying

I haven't been hearing that Rey (I've given up trying to spell his last name) is having a monster week

I don't think the Niners go D.

That is no where near enough value. Everyone involved with the Redskins whether it be the FO or the fans seems to totally undervalue Rogers and it's probably becasue he can't catch. However, his primary job is not catching the football it's defending WR's and he's pretty damn good at it. We spent a top 10 pick on him and he's far from a bust so why should we trade him for a low #2? We should be resigning him or at least keeping him for this year and then trying to tag and trade him then if a long term deal can not be reached.

As I said, I am not an advocate of trading Rogers, but if he gets traded I was looking for potential landing spots. Why trade him for a low #2? Because if the Skins are intent on dealing him they aren't likely to get anything more. Look at recent trades in the NFL. The Eagles couldn't get more than a #2 for Lito Sheppard. DeAngelo Hall went for a 2nd in 2008 and 5th in 2009. Jeremy Shockey went for a future 2nd and future 5th. Jason Taylor a future 2nd. But you expect a team to give up a mid-1st for Rogers? Not very likely.