the new health care?

Democracy is a beautiful thing. Go get people to vote for your preferred policy and you too can enjoy whatever form of government you want. It's a shame the jazz in some people's mouth is still so worm they have to resort to using cliché and buzz words like fascism and socialism. Terrible shame.

I hear Somalia is great this time of the year. Don't forget to get a tan, we don't want you to standout.

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Can't access the imbedded photo or video at work and don't particularly care. Democracy is a beautiful thing. When have I advocated differently? See my post above for the point I was making. Before implying people are cocksucker's, maybe you might want try be sure you understand their point.

saden, you know the word change is equal to the word fear in alot of peoples minds. the thing that worries me is that these money making machines are so anxious to get this bill passed, even before congress actually even sees it. there must be a whole lot of incentives( $) in it for them. and in turn, this usually means the average Joe's, like me and you, are getting screwed. don't get me wrong, im for universal health care. but i would like to see it done right

I don't think fear is the issue. There are plenty of examples of national health care, and while it offers some benefits for the mob, more efficiency is not one of them, which was the only statement I was making originally. As for the rest of this thread ... whatever.

Can't access the imbedded photo or video at work and don't particularly care. Democracy is a beautiful thing. When have I advocated differently? See my post above for the point I was making. Before implying people are cocksucker's, maybe you might want try be sure you understand their point.


We all infer what we want. I'm affirming the beauty of democracy and how the "transformation" of this country is in accordance with democratic principles. As for the Jazz jab, what can I say, the world is full of cocksuckers (tea baggers come to mind) who are still bitter they lost the election. If you're one of them god bless you. It's nothing personal.

Democracy is a beautiful thing. Go get people to vote for your preferred policy and you too can enjoy whatever form of government you want. It's a shame the jazz in some people's mouth is still so worm they have to resort to using cliché and buzz words like fascism and socialism. Terrible shame.

I hear Somalia is great this time of the year. Don't forget to get a tan, we don't want you to standout.


Our government structure is, imo, the best style going.(although still evil Joe) - pure democracy is not a beautiful thing, and I would be surprised Saden, if you felt it was. There always needs to be some check on the simple majority, because otherwise the minority gets trampled. I was damn close to going to Somalia under Clinton and I didn't want to then and don't now. No government is called Anarchy, not Libertarian. Very poor post for you Saden, not very reflective, and relatively inaccurate departure from your norm.

Our government structure is, imo, the best style going.(although still evil Joe) - pure democracy is not a beautiful thing, and I would be surprised Saden, if you felt it was. There always needs to be some check on the simple majority, because otherwise the minority gets trampled. I was damn close to going to Somalia under Clinton and I didn't want to then and don't now. No government is called Anarchy, not Libertarian. Very poor post for you Saden, not very reflective, and relatively inaccurate departure from your norm.

That's where the constitution and the court system come into play. No system can ever be perfect including ours (see locking up people without trial) but it sure beats a lot of other systems except the system used by the Federation where people "live and work to better themselves" and the Federation exists "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before."

That's where the constitution and the court system come into play. No system can ever be perfect including ours (see locking up people without trial) but it sure beats a lot of other systems except the system used by the Federation where people "live and work to better themselves" and the Federation exists "to explore strange new worlds, to seek out new life forms and new civilizations, to boldly go where no man has gone before."

Any comment I could add to that could be a spoiler so we will let it fly.

Democracy is a beautiful thing. Go get people to vote for your preferred policy and you too can enjoy whatever form of government you want. It's a shame the jazz in some people's mouth is still so worm they have to resort to using cliché and buzz words like fascism and socialism. Terrible shame.

I hear Somalia is great this time of the year. Don't forget to get a tan, we don't want you to standout.

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That's why we have (had) a Republic and not a Democracy. The people will vote for any damn thing they feel like unless there are laws to stop them. Democracy is nothing more than Mob Rule. Just because voters have the mine to say, vote for free housing or a free Hummer with gold platted rims, doesn't mean it's lawful.
I'm sick right now but I don't expect anyone to take care of me. Why should I pay more money to pay for someone else's health? How is it that liberals want to seperate Christianity from government but still expect non-Christians like myself to be my "so-called" brother's keeper?
You forgot to include Progressivism in your list. It's not much of a "change" either, just see how Woodrow Wilson wanted to make the world safe for Democracy by going to war with countries that never attacked us. Does that sound familiar? Your lovely Progressive movement gave us the Federal Reserve. Now we get to have free health care just like they have in England and Cuba. Thanks :vomit:

LOL...Hope you can afford your medical bills, we don't have universal healthcare yet.

Representative Democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy):
"the United States relies on representative democracy, but [its] system of government is much more complex than that. [It is] not a simple representative democracy, but a constitutional republic in which majority rule is tempered by minority rights protected by law."

Ron Paul lost. I'm so sorry for your loss.

LOL...Hope you can afford your medical bills, we don't have universal healthcare yet.

Representative Democracy (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Representative_democracy):


Ron Paul lost. I'm so sorry for your loss.
I currently pay around $650 per month for a family plan and I'm sure its much better and cheaper then anything the goverment can come up with. I do believe we need to overhaul health insurance I just don't want it run by the goverment.

I currently pay around $650 per month for a family plan and I'm sure its much better and cheaper then anything the goverment can come up with. I do believe we need to overhaul health insurance I just don't want it run by the goverment.

How can $650 a month be cheaper than free???

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