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MTK
08-13-2009, 08:43 AM
2008 is only last year and if my memory serves me right Obama said he'll gradually discontinue the Iraq fight and continue the Afghan fight during the campaign yet he still got himself elected by the leftist. It's kinda pointless to protest a guy you voted for knowing full well what he was going to do don't you think? If I were you I would wait 16 months on Iraq than open my mouth and give it to the leftist and keep quite on Afghanistan because that fight is the fight they've mostly been willing to get behind.

If you're really intrested in something ironic I would like to point out that the same people who had no problem with The Patriot Act are now all of a sudden interested in privacy and tyranny of the government. Of course their concerns are unfounded though one sometimes wishes they were.

The irony is quite delicious

Schneed10
08-13-2009, 08:53 AM
The partisan divide in this country is sickening. What's worse is that many so-called intelligent people in this thread play right into it; supporting their side unconditionally in everything, blaming the other side for inflammatory tactics, harping on personal things that have nothing to do with the issues: like Clinton's blowjob from Monica and Sanford's affair.

Set that absurd bullshit aside, for the love of God. Evaluate everything objectively, no matter which side champions it. Only then are you being open enough to make decisions/cast your vote for the betterment of society. When you go along with this partisan drivel, all you do is succumb to your ego and pride. Let it go, sometimes the folks you voted for are right, sometimes they're not, who cares.

You don't have to agree with everything your party says; to do so only confirms that you're not using your brain.

CRedskinsRule
08-13-2009, 09:05 AM
The partisan divide in this country is sickening. What's worse is that many so-called intelligent people in this thread play right into it; supporting their side unconditionally in everything, blaming the other side for inflammatory tactics, harping on personal things that have nothing to do with the issues: like Clinton's blowjob from Monica and Sanford's affair.

Set that absurd bullshit aside, for the love of God. Evaluate everything objectively, no matter which side champions it. Only then are you being open enough to make decisions/cast your vote for the betterment of society. When you go along with this partisan drivel, all you do is succumb to your ego and pride. Let it go, sometimes the folks you voted for are right, sometimes they're not, who cares.

You don't have to agree with everything your party says; to do so only confirms that you're not using your brain.

Very well said.

mredskins
08-13-2009, 09:08 AM
The partisan divide in this country is sickening. What's worse is that many so-called intelligent people in this thread play right into it; supporting their side unconditionally in everything, blaming the other side for inflammatory tactics, harping on personal things that have nothing to do with the issues: like Clinton's blowjob from Monica and Sanford's affair.

Set that absurd bullshit aside, for the love of God. Evaluate everything objectively, no matter which side champions it. Only then are you being open enough to make decisions/cast your vote for the betterment of society. When you go along with this partisan drivel, all you do is succumb to your ego and pride. Let it go, sometimes the folks you voted for are right, sometimes they're not, who cares.

You don't have to agree with everything your party says; to do so only confirms that you're not using your brain.

Nice post! I agree it would be hard to find someone that all their ideas fit in one political box.

I am a democrat but try breaking into my house and I will show you where I stand on gun control.

MTK
08-13-2009, 09:21 AM
The partisan divide in this country is sickening. What's worse is that many so-called intelligent people in this thread play right into it; supporting their side unconditionally in everything, blaming the other side for inflammatory tactics, harping on personal things that have nothing to do with the issues: like Clinton's blowjob from Monica and Sanford's affair.

Set that absurd bullshit aside, for the love of God. Evaluate everything objectively, no matter which side champions it. Only then are you being open enough to make decisions/cast your vote for the betterment of society. When you go along with this partisan drivel, all you do is succumb to your ego and pride. Let it go, sometimes the folks you voted for are right, sometimes they're not, who cares.

You don't have to agree with everything your party says; to do so only confirms that you're not using your brain.

true dat

These threads are just a reflection of political talk in general these days. Everyone has a line drawn in the sand. It's silly really because both sides are pretty much guilty of the same damn things in one way or another.

FRPLG
08-13-2009, 09:30 AM
true dat

These threads are just a reflection of political talk in general these days. Everyone has a line drawn in the sand. It's silly really because both sides are pretty much guilty of the same damn things in one way or another.

This is what I keep saying. And it floats right up to the politics. The two-party system is just too restrictive in handling the complexities of a nation like ours. It fosters bad ideas and is largely responsible for the mess we're in now.

Slingin Sammy 33
08-13-2009, 09:51 AM
Beware, imbeciles are afoot:

AYUmCj4yud4There were definitely imbeciles in that clip.

firstdown
08-13-2009, 09:53 AM
If the opposition is going to be delivered by racist xenophobic anti-Semites there's nothing to worry about. Ugly people are rarely attractive to all the people. Let the games begin or should I say resume.

I knew when decided to post on this again you would use those types of terms and throw out the race card.

JoeRedskin
08-13-2009, 09:57 AM
I agree with Schneed's and the other similar sentiments expressed - Clearly, the lines are drawn, the leadership on both sides drew them.

If either side had someone who would propose real ideas of reform and show the courage to take on the vested interests of the trial lawyers, the insurers, pharmaceutical companies, and doctors in an attempt to cut through the Gordian Knot that is healthcare in America today, THEN, maybe, we could resolve the issues.

As it is, to me, it looks our only options when it comes to actual health care reform are a bad plan or no plan.

Great.

Slingin Sammy 33
08-13-2009, 09:59 AM
LOOOL...seriously? This guy is a U.S. Senator? He is either a moron or thinks we're moron. With Cornyn you never know which is true. Any reasonable person knows that all the white house wanted to do is fight bogus chain emails similar to the ones we constatntly saw posted here and everywhere else. Their request was beyond innocent and I really don't know how "forward us fishy chain emails and rumors so we can debunk them" turned into "spy on your fellow citizens on our behalf." Un-f*cking-believable. :doh:Truly saden-esque response. I don't remember any "bogus chain E-mails" posted here, maybe I missed something. The Patriot Act was designed to provide surveillance on terrorist suspects, the left went nuts claiming all sorts of "innocent civilians" were prosecuted under the Patriot Act. But yet I don't recall any evidence of any prosecution not terror related.

Nothing in Cornyn's letter is false.

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