can WE now start a countdown to a new coach and qb

we played a great team in their stadium. also i've never thought we match up particularly well against the Giants. if it comes to it, i like colt mccoy

This was not a great team that we played. Our team did not change anything from last year accept for Haynesworth who did his job. Jason Campbell still does not get it. There were more than enough opportunities for us to win this game and everytime it we got something going a half back option is called after Portis breaks for over twenty. Or after a big completion Campbell throws an INt or fumbles the ball. Please don't let me talk about Carlos Rodgers.

The problem was we stopped running the ball and they didn't. They averaged 3.3 yards per run and we averaged 4.0 yards per run. You don't give 16 touches to Clinton. This whole Betts on third down needs to be scrapped. I mean he was for -1 yards for god sake. I would rather take my chances with CP breaking one than Betts.We stopped running the ball? Really?

When Clinton Portis got his 16th carry, Campbell had 18 pass attempts. Exactly what are you supposed to do when he's plunging into the line for a yard per play?

We put the ball in Campbell's hands, and scored rather easily. They were very understaffed in the secondary.

The problem was we stopped running the ball and they didn't. They averaged 3.3 yards per run and we averaged 4.0 yards per run. You don't give 16 touches to Clinton. This whole Betts on third down needs to be scrapped. I mean he was for -1 yards for god sake. I would rather take my chances with CP breaking one than Betts.


Nope. Clinton Portis averaged under 2.0 yards per rush after the first run of the game. I think he played really really medicore football today.

Nope. Clinton Portis averaged under 2.0 yards per rush after the first run of the game. I think he played really really medicore football today.

Don't care, and for explanation see A. Perterson. The game is about breaking a big run and he did. I would take my chances with CP thank you. Running the ball even for 2/3 yards gets the defense more tired and in the long run it pays off. Zorn got out-coached plain and simple.

I lay this loss solely on playcalling. Not too many people are going to run all over the Giants with their line this year. We needed to sling it more and be more choosy with when/how often we ran.

Don't care, and for explanation see A. Perterson. The game is about breaking a big run and he did. I would take my chances with CP thank you. Running the ball even for 2/3 yards gets the defense more tired and in the long run it pays off. Zorn got out-coached plain and simple.Obviously the game is really about taking knees. The team that takes the most knees wins like 98% of the time.

People are wasting time talking about JC, the real concern is that the OL is still not able to handle a top flight D.

Exactly, that and the playcalling is pathetic. When we were pinned deep, 3 straight runs, what a joke! Zorn is the problem....we got outcoached!

We stopped running the ball? Really?

When Clinton Portis got his 16th carry, Campbell had 18 pass attempts. Exactly what are you supposed to do when he's plunging into the line for a yard per play?

We put the ball in Campbell's hands, and scored rather easily. They were very understaffed in the secondary.


Yeah, they were playing soft because the game by that time was won. You need to pound the ball with CP early and often and get Betts off the field.

Yeah, they were playing soft because the game by that time was won. You need to pound the ball with CP early and often and get Betts off the field.You do know Betts got a single carry, and that was an audible at the line itself?

Pounding Portis = wasting plays. Some defenses let you have your way with 7 in the box. The Giants only used 7 in the box, but they won the one on ones all day.

Is it time to start worry about the Oline yet? Actually handling a top 3 pass rushing D-Line I think we did ok, look at JC stats, great completion % and all that good stuff. I was disappointed when we did run the ball we went nowhere. Then that leads to me to the point, why did we keep running the ball especially in the second half? Zorn play calling was horrible, I mean really disturbing. Call shotgun and get the ball downfield and need some more mis direction plays to cool that rush, screens, counters, etc.


Like you, the one area of Zorn's coaching that is sometimes baffling to me is his play calling. Today I think he stuck with the run too much, and for too long, espically when we were down by two scores in the second half. The Giants loved it because we were using clock, but not scoring any points.