Who Stays And Who Goes? Perceptions Changing?

No coach is going to suggest another team fire its current coach. That's plain disrespectful

True, but his point was more about building continuity and taking what we do well and building on that. He made it pretty clear he doesn't think the Skins need to blow things up and start over.

True, but his point was more about building continuity and taking what we do well and building on that. He made it pretty clear he doesn't think the Skins need to blow things up and start over.

From a small perspective that correct. Looking at the big picture....

If next year is a no cap year then we would be stupid to not blow it up. Get rid of all the old players and their contracts. Bring in youth. Start building around the draft and stop trading out picks for a has been. Start actually developing players we draft (as long as they get good scouts to pick good players). Stop constantly picking BPA unless we have no drastic needs at any one position, then pick BPA.

Get rid of VC. Even if DS did all I said above and said he was retaining Zorn and Co. though ...I would almost except if as long as he got rid of VC and the Scouts. If he did this I would almost say Ok I'm fine with this for right now for continuity sake. Bring in a true GM and hopefully better talent scouts.

Na, never mind, blow it up. I hope that if everything changes but DS keeps VC people chant, and chant, and chant, and chant...."VC must go" at every game.

I'm not sure he will be. I think he's sort of plateaued and what you see is what you get. I really don't have a problem with committing to him. I do have a problem with not making a decision one way or the other heading into his 6th NFL season.

I disagree. I've seen more improvement in Campbell in the last 4 games (since Zorn had more time to work with him) than in the prior 2 years before that. He completed multiple touch passes in a single game for the first time ever, he was hitting down-field receivers in something other than a crossing route, and he was making decisions more quickly.

As far as Vinny, it looks like the draft choices from the last 2 years are starting to work out. We always talk about building for the future. If the inside plan was: this year is a year which we just want to survive, and the next we build the offensive line, then it's not too bad. While our offensive line is a disaster, the defensive line has been fixed (one of the top priorities) and the receiver corps is in the best shape in years. The defensive secondary is in very good shape considering the loss of (and need to "replace") Sean Taylor unexpectedly. (The Celtics were terrible for years after they lost Bias.) The Jason Taylor attempt was unfortunate, but we were in a very bad bind at that point as injuries had reduced our defensive line to a shambles. I think we have improved greatly since the days when we were giving draft picks for Duckett and obtained Archuleta, etc. As far as QB goes, it looks like things are starting to work out. Four weeks ago I wanted to sit Campbell and try Collins to see how much was the line and how much was the QB. His play since then has improved to a remarkable degree. We now need him to get his mojo back at the end of a game.

Here is what I am looking for:
I want to see them start putting teams away when they can. (They don't have many easy games left.) When they actually won by 10 against Denver I was amazed. It probably lost a lot of money for the cardiologists in Washington. It seemed to me that they also had it right against the Saints. Every time the Saints would score to get it to a one-score game, they came right back and scored again to make it a two-score game. (Except for Suisham.) In the past it's always been scoring from behind. So if they stop playing "down to" the level of the opposition, that will be the first time we have seen that in years. I remember the year when Mara died, we only lost 1 regular season game by more than 1 TD, but we had only 1 win by more than a TD until Collins came in.

If they can put other teams away and they play well I think we should hang on to Zorn et al. If Vinny's plan was to survive this year and fix the OL next year, then I'm OK with keeping him. I am saying that with the proviso that that was the plan before this football season began.

We will see what the next few weeks bring. Hopefully some good football and healthy young players showing that they have to stuff to succeed.

Dan Snyder also has a reputation for getting rid of coaches too quickly. But it didn't start that way. He kept Norv Turner way too long. So maybe he's starting to get it.

Lastly, several weeks ago most people were saying all sorts of horrible things about the Bingo caller and how Zorn should feel about it. (And it's a total fail that Sherm doesn't talk to Campbell during the week.) The official report was that Zorn had too much on his plate and this was devised to solve that problem. Until they got these guys, Zorn probably had more on his plate than any other head coach, and was still learning the job. Maybe we have to consider that they meant what they said. I'm a scientist. I don't give a damn (in fact I like it) if a solution to a problem is different from what's normally done, but most people don't appreciate that.

For the first half of the year I didn't make my family watch the Redskins. (My wife is from Mexico, and my kids are 9,7,3, and 1.) But now they're more interested, and my wife was yelling during an exciting part of a game recently (a first.)

As an aside, I find it amusing that we have only gone up one place in the FoxSports power ranking in the last 4 games. (That was after we beat Denver.) First they dropped the Broncos to avoid raising us, then they dropped the Eagles for the same reason, then after a while they didn't need to drop anybody, they just left us where we were.

As a last aside, please root for Army this weekend, since my cousin's kid is their (freshman!) starting QB. Thanks!

^^ very well thought out post

Dan Snyder also has a reputation for getting rid of coaches too quickly. But it didn't start that way. He kept Norv Turner way too long. So maybe he's starting to get it.

Snyder didn't keep Norv around too long. Not quite two years; I guess that you're referring to the years that Norv was here before Snyder's ownership too?

Snyder didn't keep Norv around too long. Not quite two years; I guess that you're referring to the years that Norv was here before Snyder's ownership too?

You may very well be right. I just remember feeling it took them way too long for them to get rid of him. I think if I had taken over the team at that time I would have gotten rid of him right away.

I gotta say Campbell stays at this point. We aren't gonna get a QB in the draft who will play any better for at least a few years, especially if we stick with the WCO. Build the line, fire Vinny, get a real GM, and stick with the west coast, Zorn or not.

And Ganther needs to be around next year, too. He could be a Ryan Grant kind of player for us. One team's garbage is another teams treasure kind of thing.