Who Stays And Who Goes? Perceptions Changing?

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rbanerjee23
12-07-2009, 01:56 PM
get rid of vinny, rebuild the o line, get a new running back and please get better coaching for landry...campbell is not the problem I have been saying this week after week

skinsfan69
12-07-2009, 02:02 PM
A new coach is definitely going to mean significant changes, especially at QB. I'm almost starting to wish we could just keep Zorn and make Sherman Lewis the full-time OC/play-caller, build up the OL, keep JC, and go from there.

I almost think this is the way to go too. More change is just going to mean set backs. We'll see.

skinsfan69
12-07-2009, 02:04 PM
Have you watched the games since the 2nd half of the Atlanta game? They should have beaten the Cowboys (Suisham missed 2 FG) should have beaten Philly in Philly and yesterday's game because of Suisham again. Remember this team is playing without:

Samuels
Thomas
Portis
Cooley
Rinehart
Betts
Jarmon
Horton

Haynesworth was also out of the Eagles and Cowboys game and could have been a difference maker.

And has still enough talent

Did you stop and think maybe the guys that are playing now are better than the ones not playing?

joethiesmanfan
12-07-2009, 02:12 PM
Have you watched the games since the 2nd half of the Atlanta game? They should have beaten the Cowboys (Suisham missed 2 FG) should have beaten Philly in Philly and yesterday's game because of Suisham again. Remember this team is playing without:

Samuels
Thomas
Portis
Cooley
Rinehart
Betts
Jarmon
Horton

Haynesworth was also out of the Eagles and Cowboys game and could have been a difference maker.

And has still enough talent





We have young talent too. This is not an old team.

joethiesmanfan
12-07-2009, 02:16 PM
Did you stop and think maybe the guys that are playing now are better than the ones not playing?

Let's entertain that:

Maybe Fred Davis is better than Cooley? pro bowler

Maybe Jones is better than Samuels? pro bowler

Maybe Davis is better than Thomas and Rhinehart? pro bowler

etc. etc.

If that is the case, then Vinny is the best GM in the league.

RMSkins
12-07-2009, 02:20 PM
What is so obviously clear to me is that Zorn and Cerrato need to be gone after this year, after that I would be fine with everyone else returning.

joethiesmanfan
12-07-2009, 02:28 PM
I am not certain how you come to this conclusion.


The problem is this rookie QB could: 1. Possibly make everything else digress. 2. By the time he gets ready we will have squandered 3 or 4 Haynesworth seasons, Carter, Fletcher, Moss and other players. Just keep tweaking til we get it. IMO.

Maybe the rookie QB turns out to be worse than Campbell? Just because a player is drafted high does not mean they will be any good. No amount of research can guarantee this. There are no Mannings in this years draft.

12thMan
12-07-2009, 02:36 PM
I must say, Sherm Lewis has made all the difference in the past four weeks. Little by little, we've seen Fred Davis emerge first, then Devin Thomas in recent weeks, now I imagine Kelly will be worked into the game plan more and more.

I'm simply resigned to make some minor offseason personnel adjustments and keep Zorn and Lewis. JC is starting to look too comfortable to blow things up again.

SFREDSKIN
12-07-2009, 02:38 PM
Did you stop and think maybe the guys that are playing now are better than the ones not playing?

Not on the OL they are not.

SmootSmack
12-07-2009, 02:40 PM
I must say, Sherm Lewis has made all the difference in the past four weeks. Little by little, we've seen Fred Davis emerge first, then Devin Thomas in recent weeks, now I imagine Kelly will be worked into the game plan more and more.

I'm simply resigned to make some minor offseason personnel adjustments and keep Zorn and Lewis. JC is starting to look too comfortable to blow things up again.

I wonder though what will happen when Portis and more importantly Cooley return. How will Lewis or whoever work Cooley back in and still develop guys like Davis?

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