How far can Beck take us?

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MTK
08-01-2011, 03:19 PM
Yeah well we did have a 1st, 2nd, and 4th as well. Plus we went into the draft with what 5 picks? And then leveraged that into 12. Pretty good. So you can't really say they aren't placing a high value on the draft.

Bottom line is you need a healthy mix of draft picks and free agents, and I think you're seeing that. Rome wasn't built in a day. I think a philosophical change in team building is pretty evident at Redskins Park these days.

We had a 3rd too which was Hankerson

irish
08-01-2011, 03:19 PM
Yeah well we did have a 1st, 2nd, and 4th as well. Plus we went into the draft with what 5 picks? And then leveraged that into 12. Pretty good. So you can't really say they aren't placing a high value on the draft.

Bottom line is you need a healthy mix of draft picks and free agents, and I think you're seeing that. Rome wasn't built in a day. I think a philosophical change in team building is pretty evident at Redskins Park these days.

You are right, when you look at successful teams they have the mix you point out. They are placing that value on the draft for now but things can change pretty fast at Redskins Park. I think if the Skins could ever get some stability at head coach and have a system (both in game plans and player acquisition philosophy) in place for more than 2 or 3 years it would do wonders for the team's onfield performance. Successful teams just dont change coaches/philosophies as often as the Skins do.

mooby
08-01-2011, 03:21 PM
You know, even if Beck does have a great season this year, or Grossman for that matter, I still see this team going into the draft next offseason and getting our long term answer at QB. We might even flip one of these two qb's for picks or a player, since they're both over 30 and clearly not the future.

over the mountain
08-01-2011, 03:21 PM
Dont know much about beck apart from watching a handful of his games with miami.

For this year i have no prob heading into week 1 with a unheralded qb (beck, grossman) whom the shannys think fits their system best.

Unless the D does an about face, the W-L record isnt going to look pretty imo this year.

The biggest thing i want is a qb who can run their system to some degree. I really want to see what the shannys system looks like b/c apparently with mcnabb freestyling and not picking up the playcalls, we didnt see it last year.

GMScud
08-01-2011, 03:22 PM
We had a 3rd too which was Hankerson

Oh yeah duh. How could I forget my favorite pick of the draft.

wilsowilso
08-01-2011, 03:29 PM
We need a really big step forward from the O line this year.

Speaking of the big boys in front of Beck or Grossman did anyone see the Trent Williams interview today?

That guy is really articulate and it seems like his head is in the right place for him to continue to grow and grow into a top flight player. Hopefully.

Shadowbyte
08-01-2011, 04:22 PM
I don't know if this has been posted yet but this doesn't give me a shred of confidence that our offense won't remain stagnant.

John Beck’s Saturday practice - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/post/john-becks-saturday-practice/2011/07/31/gIQApL8hmI_blog.html)

Fireox
08-01-2011, 04:26 PM
This year has shown a profound departure from recent years gone by. In the old Snyder/Cerrato days we'd have Franklin, Jenkins Holmes and Namdi watching scrubs till Thursday, wondering about the well-paid ass whupping they'd signed up for.
This years signings have almost all been well thought out and address needs and character, aside from the curious obsessiveness at WR and RB (Donte Stallworth? Really?).
My biggest worry is O-line depth (please, just say no to a Stephon Heyer re-signing) One or two injuries leads to whomever suits up at QB landing in a body bag. I've no great faith in Grossman, but at least he knows the system - Clements, not so much. If the line can stay healthy and keep Beck upright I see no reason we can't win 8 this year.

Hog1
08-01-2011, 04:28 PM
Win now? This team?

Seems like they're trying to build for the long haul if you ask me. Sure they're bringing in free agents, but they're all in the 25-28 range and ready for their prime years.

The Eagles are in win now mode.
AND...........it seems rather obvious to me.........

sportscurmudgeon
08-01-2011, 04:32 PM
I think we will struggle due to the schedule, not the new players. :P It's brutal.

What schedule are you reading? :bs:

If you rank the teams' schedules based on the win/loss record from last year, the Redskins schedule is a piece of cake. I believe it is the 29th most difficult one based on that metric. The Skins' 2011 opponents went a combined 121-135 in 2010. (Check for yourself to see if I made a math error here.)

The Redskins get to play the Panthers as one out of division team and the Vikings as the other. Based on comments here, the Vikes should be an easy game because they have such a worthless QB and the Panthers were abjectly miserable last season. :towel:

After they play the Panthers and Bills on two consecutive weekends, they then have to contend with the 49ers - - another Super Bowl contender. :yeahright

The Redskins - - and the rest of the NFC East - - get to play the NFC West this year as part of the in-conference rotation. Remember, that is the division that had no teams with winning records last year.

What you ought to fear the most is that the Redskins EASY schedule will make the team appear to be "one player away from greatness" in 2012 and tempt the powers that be into abandoning the "build from within strategy"... :joke:

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