How far can Beck take us?

I wish I could be a fly on the wall for that conversation...

Mike: So I'm thinking this deal for Donovan is done.

Kyle: Um...yeah, Dad? We've talked about this before. A lot. I don't want McNabb. He's not a fit for our system.

Mike: Have you mowed the grass yet?

Kyle: Dad, that's not the point. Haven't you heard about this guy? About the laziness, the lack of tempo. Not to mention his fundamentals are all over the place, Dad, and...

Mike: That grass is looking mighty long, Kyle.

Kyle: ...Okay, I get the grass is growing a bit. But personally, I wouldn't mind working with Jason Campbell, letting him and Rex compete for the job...

Mike: How about this? We'll trade for Donovan, and we'll work to fixing his fundamentals...

Kyle: He's 34, how can we--

Mike: In the meantime, while me and Bruce finalize the puppy, you can mow the grass

Kyle: I really don't see.

Mike: Does someone want to get grounded?

Kyle: ...Dad, I'm 31 years old, and...

Mike: Okay *pats Kyle on the back*, good talk son. Going to go trade for Donovan now. I expect that grass to be mowed when I come back.

*Mike walks off, leaving Kyle looking defeated. Vanquished, Kyle sighs, walks away, and goes to get the lawn mower, cursing McNabb's name the whole time*

You obviously never saw Phil Simms play cause you're judging him on a silly rating..

I assure you, I've watched him play. I can't tell you how many times I've cursed the name Mark Bravaro. That guy ****ing destroyed us each and every game. I'm not saying he was bad, just nothing that impressed me that much. Jim Kelly was a better QB in my opinion and so were a few other QBs during that era.

I'm not going to say Ozzie Newsome, the same guy who traded picks to ensure he'd move up for Kyle Boller, giving up on John Beck is the death knell for Beck. At the same time, I don't know how I feel about us being the ones to "truly" give him his first real opportunity...at 30 years old. Really hope I'm proven wrong about him. But I feel we're going to put a lot of pressure on our running game and defense with Beck behind center.

And, while it's not a topic I want to keep talking about as I prefer to just move on, I've heard repeatedly from many people the McNabb talk was initially pushed by Bruce Allen.

whoa

Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/08/kyle-shanahan-says-he-wanted-texans-to-take-john-beck-with-10th-pick-in-2007-draft/)

that confirms but earlier statement!

And, while it's not a topic I want to keep talking about as I prefer to just move on, I've heard repeatedly from many people the McNabb talk was initially pushed by Bruce Allen.

Well he's coming from Tampa, where Jon Gruden changed quarterbacks like he changed underwear, so it makes sense...

that confirms but earlier statement!

Apart from the fact that statement doesn't make sense...what statement are you talking about?

A more direct quote from Kyle about Beck and the 2007 Draft:
Monday: Washington Redskins; Ashburn, Va.

Everyone think this is a bit harebrained, handing the starting job to a guy who's never done it in the NFL, who surrendered three seasons of college football training to go on a Mormon mission. "I guess that's expected,'' the confident and exceedingly well-spoken John Beck said after the morning practice. "I don't take the time to think about it. I have so much respect for Steve Young [they're both former BYU quarterbacks], and he told me, 'Don't try to figure out the why.' It's mental quicksand.

"Nobody thinks the red-haired freckled kid who missed three years of football for a mission is going to make it. But finally I feel a system in the NFL is right for me. This offense relies on the quarterback to make quick decisions, to have accuracy, to use your legs to get outside and make plays.''

I'm not sure after talking to Mike Shanahan and his offensive coordinator son, Kyle, who likes Beck more. Kyle: "My first year as a position coach in the league, Houston had me scout all the quarterbacks coming out that year,'' Kyle Shanahan said. "That was the JaMarcus Russell year, with Brady Quinn, Trent Edwards, Kevin Kolb and Beck. So they asked me who I'd pick if I had the 10th pick in the draft. I told them Beck. They said he's not worth the 10th pick in the draft. I was standing on the table for him. I've never seen a guy play that well in college.''

Beck turns 30 in two weeks. Mike Shanahan has implied that he'll get the starting nod over Rex Grossman. Beck's had some rough practices this summer. But knowing the Shanahans, they're not going to cave if they think Beck's good enough. I think he'll start that emotional season opener against the Giants on 9/11.

Read more: Philadelphia Eagles can redo*contracts for Michael Vick,*DeSean*Jackson and still be under NFL cap - Peter King - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/peter_king/08/08/tour/index.html#ixzz1UTFju5M3)

On a side note, Steve Young has already mentored one talented late bloomer. Lets hope he can do it again.

Well it really sucks we won't see Beck play this Friday due to his groin injury. That blows. I really wanted to see him in action against the steelers D

Well it really sucks we won't see Beck play this Friday due to his groin injury. That blows. I really wanted to see him in action against the steelers D

Is there a more recent update than this?

John Beck says he’ll be ready for Steelers - The Insider - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/john-beck-says-hell-be-ready-for-steelers/2011/08/08/gIQA3O1b2I_blog.html)

Is there a more recent update than this?

John Beck says he’ll be ready for Steelers - The Insider - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/football-insider/post/john-beck-says-hell-be-ready-for-steelers/2011/08/08/gIQA3O1b2I_blog.html)

Hmmm. I saw an article on NFL. com. Let me check and see what was more recent.