How far can Beck take us?

Dolphins let him go because they originally got Chad Pennington on a whim then after he got hurt they wanted to make sure the guy they drafted got a shot. Ravens obviously had a franchise QB and knew they were set at backup with Bulger. Both understandable circumstances.

Both understandable, but regardless of the reasons, the fact that he was given away for next to nothing not once but twice doesn't really lend to the idea of him having much value for multiple teams, especially as a potential starter. If he wasn't viewed as anything more than a clipboard holder, he wouldnt have been passed off so easily.

Are they good points really?

Parcells is a good personnel guy when it comes to OL/DL/LB, but I wouldn't call him some guru on QBs. None of his QBs have been really worth noting. (Simms?..lol, Bledsoe?..lol, Hostetler?...lol) and it took him forever to finally bench Bledsoe for Tony Romo.


Same can be said with Newsome. He's great at the other positions (OL,DB,LB,DL,RB), but lets not make them out to be some QB gurus. Dilfer?...lol Banks?...lol Grbac?...lol Boeller?...lol Hell, even now, we are seeing their prime young QB fail when it matters most. The jury is still out on Flacco at this point in time.


I would value Shannahan/Reid/Holmgren opinion on QBs more than I would Parcells/Newsome.

You're kidding me right? Phil Simms was a damn good NFL Qb. So was Drew Bledsoe. They were both very good. If you don't think those guys were not good then I can't respect your football IQ.

You're kidding me right? Phil Simms was a damn good NFL Qb. So was Drew Bledsoe. They were both very good. If you don't think those guys were not good then I can't respect your football IQ.


Bledsoe took an AVG Pats team to the SB and Simms has won a SB.. I think they were both really good NTM Romo is a solid player also

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Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/08/kyle-shanahan-says-he-wanted-texans-to-take-john-beck-with-10th-pick-in-2007-draft/)

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Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/08/kyle-shanahan-says-he-wanted-texans-to-take-john-beck-with-10th-pick-in-2007-draft/)

Man, the QB class of 2007 sucked. Also, I love how PFT is digging at Redskins' non-stories. LOL. They are like a crackhead who is going through withdrawal.

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Kyle Shanahan says he wanted Texans to take John Beck with 10th pick in 2007 | ProFootballTalk (http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/08/08/kyle-shanahan-says-he-wanted-texans-to-take-john-beck-with-10th-pick-in-2007-draft/)

Maybe a case of revisionist history but Rick Smith (Texans GM) confirming Kyle liking Beck 4 years after the fact gives it some credibility. I don't know, it's one of those things where it's fun to fix up a sports car rather then break the bank for a new one before you can afford it.

Still I keep on talking to my Dad about this and he's like oh the Skins are going to be like 3-13 this year. And I asked him how is that so? Last year they went 6-10 with one of the worst QB's in the league (at least performance wise, seeing as how McNabb was McNabb in name only), the 31st ranked defense, and the 24th ranked rushing attack. They shored up the offensive and defensive lines, started building through the draft, and if anything they'll get better QB play out of Grossman then they got out of McNabb this year.

Better defense, better O-Line, deeper running back stable, improved QB play, easier overall schedule, and second year in both offensive and defensive systems all point towards the team imporving.

Man, the QB class of 2007 sucked. Also, I love how PFT is digging at Redskins' non-stories. LOL. They are like a crackhead who is going through withdrawal.

seriously, talk about making stories out of non-stories, but that's what PFT does best.

You're kidding me right? Phil Simms was a damn good NFL Qb. So was Drew Bledsoe. They were both very good. If you don't think those guys were not good then I can't respect your football IQ.


I'll might be willing to give you Bledsoe, but Phil Simms no. Dude's average QB rating is BELOW 80.

Also, looking at Bledsoe even further. His completion % sucked balls and has a career QB rating of 77. Sure he may have thrown many seasons with 20+ TDs, but he also had a ton of INTs to go along. That and he was a statue that took sacks instead of being able to avoid them.

Maybe a case of revisionist history but Rick Smith (Texans GM) confirming Kyle liking Beck 4 years after the fact gives it some credibility. I don't know, it's one of those things where it's fun to fix up a sports car rather then break the bank for a new one before you can afford it.

Still I keep on talking to my Dad about this and he's like oh the Skins are going to be like 3-13 this year. And I asked him how is that so? Last year they went 6-10 with one of the worst QB's in the league (at least performance wise, seeing as how McNabb was McNabb in name only), the 31st ranked defense, and the 24th ranked rushing attack. They shored up the offensive and defensive lines, started building through the draft, and if anything they'll get better QB play out of Grossman then they got out of McNabb this year.

Better defense, better O-Line, deeper running back stable, improved QB play, easier overall schedule, and second year in both offensive and defensive systems all point towards the team imporving.

I'm starting to think it's becoming a defense mechanism. Trying to convince themselves it's going to be a horrible season, so if we have a good season they can be "pleasantly surprised" or if they have a bad season they can say "I told you so".

We didn't make some big move in the offseason that allowed people to say "SUPER BOWL, MAN!", so instead fans are saying we'll suck for doing exactly what they said they didn't want to do.

Man, the QB class of 2007 sucked. Also, I love how PFT is digging at Redskins' non-stories. LOL. They are like a crackhead who is going through withdrawal.

It is pretty laughable.

However the notion of John Beck is pretty laughable, too.