Carolina Panthers vs Washington Redskins Gameday Thread

So after watchig this team for 6 weeks what makes you think Buffalo and the 49ers are wins? I bet we drop one of those games. Also at Seattle is not an automatic win. Tough place to play. We're simply not good enough to walk on the field and beat anyone.

I'm not saying we won't. The question was "who had this team at 11-5." I was pointing out that I did prior to the season for the reasons I listed. Your right some of the teams look better then expected, but so does the Skins, media had the Skins at 8-8 or worse. With my 11-5 all I'm pointing out is we could afford to lose 2 more game and maybe still get into the playoffs. I'm not talking SB. On a side note the Jets look like an easy win which I had as a loss.

No matter what we need to split our division. We beat the Giants. Lost to the Cowboys and Eagles. As long as we win the next games with the Cowboys and Eagles we can afford to lose to the Giants. But I'd rather beat then twice since now they are up on top of the division.

Barnes has been stinking it up all year. When does Buchanon get back?

I thought he was active today. But I think Barnes was playing a lot of safety today.

We did draft someone to be the Future after fletcher unlike QB

I thought he was active today. But I think Barnes was playing a lot of safety today.

Thought Doughty was starting at safety? Barnes may have been playing there. I just don't think we have a better option than him at CB right now. Blah.

This team needs a guy who can spark the offense much like how Cam has done for the Panthers. Im guessing we will have a lower teens draft pick and in good position to find a QB. Finding a solid no 1 receiver whether its through FA or the draft should be a close priorty behind QB.

We need to get some serious depth at Safety as well. Laron and OJ cant seem to stay on the field together. Reed is a nightmare. Haslett should be embarrassed in how he prepared the D today. Really poor.

Id consider seriously cutting Barnes. Another f*cking bullshit pick. Guy is pos player

No argument here. 3 seasons in and this guy hasn't done anything, and continues to get beat like a red-headed stepchild. He's not good no matter where he plays, whether it's backup corner, or backup safety. Byron Westbrook has outplayed him this season.

I don't think this team will be poor every week. They're just not consistent. One week we're going to see a game like today's, another week we're going to see us go toe to toe with a team better than us. I'm just preparing myself to "stay medium" week to week. One thing's for sure though, in between the injuries and bad play I don't expect us to go on a run this season.

I wish I were that positive. If you look at it, even after the lackluster win over the Rams, it's been pretty much downhill since Dallas.

In fact, we were in a death match with the Cards at home in week two. We haven't looked anywhere near as good as we did against the Giants in the opener.

QB next yr is definitly a must. I'm soo glad Beck resolved our issue's. lol.

Or he could just be Devin Thomas. You like playing that risk/reward chance card. Most people don't come out and end up being like Cam Newton or Darelle Revis and just naturally being a beast, but you can at least get a good feel for how they're going to be by watching them play. I don't get good feelings from Hankerson. I didn't in college. I didn't in pre-season. I don't now.Every move in football has risk, rewards and has a probability of success or failure. Folks then subjectively assign a probability to said players and then make their decisions based off that. Failures are UNAVOIDABLE in the NFL because the probability of players bombing is that high. But you can minimize that with scouting and the correct strategy to maximize returns on the players you acquire. And the best players are long-term players who provide returns for you.

You want T.O? You figure out what returns he'll give you and whether it's ****ing worth it over the other options you already. His short-term production is also going to be hindered because of his lack of practice in the offense. For the long-term here's T.O's ability to reach that "upper echelon" status and how many more years he's going to play. Well, he's never going to be what he was in his 20s anymore, so the chance of that is a big goose-egg. T.O is not likely to make it past 40; he might not even play this year.

Hankerson will probably provide less in the short-term, but at least he might become SOMETHING in the long-term. It's an absolute certainty that T.O will not be playing for long in the NFL and his injury. We're a rebuilding team and need all the LONG-TERM assets we can grab. That means we should look at as many guys as possible that might provide long-term value, Hankerson being one of them. This doesn't apply only to Hank, but every rookie we draft and pick up from UDFA. They ALL have a chance at providing more long-term upside than T.O.

Our strategy should about finding "franchise players", not quick fixes that don't stick for more than 3 years. If Hank bombs, fine, let's question the scouting. But I won't be scared of taking another potential WR in the 3rd round simply because Hank failed. It's a a strategy worth executing because "franchise" players are just that valuable.

He's been doing it to everyone in the defense of the defense.

????? slow down on the drinking. Or is it me drinking to much.

No argument here. 3 seasons in and this guy hasn't done anything, and continues to get beat like a red-headed stepchild. He's not good no matter where he plays, whether it's backup corner, or backup safety. Byron Westbrook has outplayed him this season.

I'd cut Banks first before Barnes.

Sidenote: The Vikes are getting ready to go up 14-7 on the Pack.