Carolina Panthers vs Washington Redskins Gameday Thread

For the first time all season, they gave out in all four quarters of the game. In every game leading up to today, they've either held teams to field goals (Dallas) or they've been good for shutting opponents down for almost a complete half (Giants, Rams, Eagles). They've kept us in practically every game until today.

At some point, your offense needs to take over and win the game for the team.

Well given the resources put into the defense, you'd expect them to do what they had done (keep us in games) and more.

I work Saturday nights from 6pm-6am pst and stay awake to watch the Redskins play at 10am pst game. I'm a sucker for punishment. I guess thats why I'm a fan. HTTR

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I dont remember who here said it but someone said Beck would have the same outcome because the receivers cant catch. Man that was right on! Our receiving core is downright crap. If I didnt know better Id say some of them where dropped on purpose. Add that to Moss going out and Beck didnt stand a chance today. We look like a totally different team than before the bye week. Gano seems to be our only constant. Sad...

For the first time all season, they gave out in all four quarters of the game. In every game leading up to today, they've either held teams to field goals (Dallas) or they've been good for shutting opponents down for almost a complete half (Giants, Rams, Eagles). They've kept us in practically every game until today.

At some point, your offense needs to take over and win the game for the team.

Agree.

Well given the resources put into the defense, you'd expect them to do what they had done (keep us in games) and more.

Resources? Bowen, Kerrigan, Otogwe (who was out today), and Wilson? Did I miss anyone? Otherwise it's the basically the same group from last year.

Yeah, the D let us down today, no doubt. But apart from the '85 Bears, the 2000 Ravens, and the '08 Steelers, in my lifetime I haven't seen a defense shut down each and every offense they face week after week. And I certainly wouldn't expect that from this defense.

There's going to be a game here and there when a geniunely good defense has a bad outing. There ought to be ONE game when the offense can pick up the slack. We haven't seen that from this bunch since week one.

That same logic could be used for QB. Since that's probably more of an issue than the WR spot.
So, a guy who is a lock to be worthless in 2-3 years is more worth a roster spot than an unknown guy who might or might not be useful in 2-3 years. Hence, short-term gains is more valuable to you than the future. 1-2 wins this year thanks to T.O is more important than taking a look at PS'ers around the league to see if someone will help us long term or even provide depth. Well, those two wins aren't going to do us jack shit in the future exc and who fans wish they could have taken.

I dont remember who here said it but someone said Beck would have the same outcome because the receivers cant catch. Man that was right on! Our receiving core is downright crap. If I didnt know better Id say some of them where dropped on purpose. Add that to Moss going out and Beck didnt stand a chance today. We look like a totally different team than before the bye week. Gano seems to be our only constant. Sad...

Yep - our receiving threats are Moss and Davis. That's it. That's the list.

Now we're down to Davis. God help the offense if he goes down. Now it's time for all of these young bucks at wideout to step in and show us what they've got.

Resources? Bowen, Kerrigan, Otogwe (who was out today), and Wilson? Did I miss anyone? Otherwise it's the basically the same group from last year.

Yeah, the D let us down today, no doubt. But apart from the '85 Bears, the 2000 Ravens, and the '08 Steelers, in my lifetime I haven't seen a defense shut down each and every offense they face week after week. And I certainly wouldn't expect that from this defense.

There's going to be a game here and there when a geniunely good defense has a bad outing. There ought to be ONE game when the offense can pick up the slack. We haven't seen that from this bunch since week one.

All those guys you mentioned are starters, so yeah that's a lot of resources. The D has let us down a lot this season, it's just been overshadowed by the sorry a$$ offense.

So, a guy who is a lock to be worthless in 2-3 years is more worth a roster spot than an unknown guy who might or might not be useful in 2-3 years. Hence, short-term gains is more valuable to you than the future. 1-2 wins this year thanks to T.O is more important than taking a look at PS'ers around the league to see if someone will help us long term or even provide depth. Well, those two wins aren't going to do us jack shit in the future exc and who fans wish they could have taken.

Only Hankerson. The rest of the young guys, Royster, Helu, Austin, Paul... They've actually shown that they can be consistent if not decent. I've got no beef with the other rookies. I dunno why you're on the guy's jock so bad.

All those guys you mentioned are starters, so yeah that's a lot of resources. The D has let us down a lot this season, it's just been overshadowed by the sorry a$$ offense.

Huh? Let's go through it game by game...

Giants, week one: Held them to 14 points, second half shut out.

Cardinals, week two: Allowed 21 points, offense bailed us out.

Dallas, week three: No TDs allowed.

Rams, week four: Gave up 10 points.

Eagles, week six: Second half shutout. Offense was good for 13 points.

Panthers, -- straw that broke the camel's back.

And I didn't go back and look at how many of those points came after a turnover by our offense. Up until today, the D is one of the few bright spots this year.