artmonkforhallofamein07
09-17-2012, 10:49 AM
My problem the refs aren't limited to bad calls, but with like others have said the lack of control of the game and the lack of respect that the players have for the refs. The head referee in our game looked as though he had no idea what was going on when he came out to make a call.
I have said "that was the worst officiated game I have ever seen" before but those games didn't come close to the lack of officiating that happened yesterday. I am not blaming them for the game and I am not saying that the Rams werent on the receiving end of some missed and bad calls either. There were plenty of opportunities for us to win this game.
Lotus
09-17-2012, 11:39 AM
Peter King takes it to the replacement refs.
Shoddy, inconsistent officiating making NFL games hard to enjoy - Peter King - SI.com (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/writers/peter_king/09/16/week-2/index.html?sct=nfl_t11_a0)
The Goat
09-17-2012, 01:15 PM
I never said the refs made bad calls against us, in fact it appears you missed my point entirely. The refs made bad calls against both sides. I agree that they missed the td call, but Fisher certainly had the option to challenge and he elected not to. Jackson's run should've been from the 17 yard line, because the refs didn't penalize Jeff Fisher 15 yards for challenging an automatically reviewed play, so that entire sequence of events was ****ed up. And he was pulled from the game because he had a groin injury, not because Fisher benched him for spiking the ball. Might want to read up on that, yeah? And I agree with you in that they were more physical, but they were definitely more physical after the whistle too, as well as taking every opportunity they could to talk shit to our guys to get them to retaliate.
I agree we were out-coached, but for far different reasons. They knew how to gameplan for Haz's defense from the start, and he never adjusted because he apparently doesn't adjust. As far as offense goes, not much was working. The Rams sent pressure on anything longer than a 3 step drop, and even screens weren't working. They were just ready for what we tried to do. But the offense still put up 21 points, and we had a 21-6 lead. That was plenty enough to win the game right there, but the defense couldn't hold them.
At the end of the day though, the thing with the refs that most concerns me is their failure to maintain control throughout the game. There was a lot of cheap shots going on, post-whistle scrums, and I felt like it was obvious they were trying to get away with a lot more stuff than they'd try to do if the normal refs were in there. I'm not concerned about the calls, because like I said there were plenty of bad calls on both sides.
During the game at least twice I heard announcers say that when asked the Rams sideline stated nothing was physically wrong with Jackson. If Fischer changed the story later that's his deal.
I have no idea what you're talking about otherwise....just lots of randomness there. Bottom line we we're soundly outcoached in all facets of the game i.e. special teams, offense and defense. Any discussion of the refs is just making excuses.
CrustyRedskin
09-17-2012, 01:40 PM
During the game at least twice I heard announcers say that when asked the Rams sideline stated nothing was physically wrong with Jackson. If Fischer changed the story later that's his deal.
I have no idea what you're talking about otherwise....just lots of randomness there. Bottom line we we're soundly outcoached in all facets of the game i.e. special teams, offense and defense. Any discussion of the refs is just making excuses.
This should be posted on all threads then close them down and go to work on the Bengals. Nice perspective Goat.
The Goat
09-17-2012, 01:48 PM
This should be posted on all threads then close them down and go to work on the Bengals. Nice perspective Goat.
Gonna be a tough game with all the hoopla of RGIII's first game at home, but I think we'll come out very aggressive on both sides of the ball.
I don't think anyone is or should be pinning the loss on the replacement refs. But they are a major concern not just for the Skins but for the entire league. And as the season goes on, the problem is only going to get worse.
The league can go on and on about player safety all they want, but when they are willing to trot out subpar refs who have no control of the game or respect from the players and coaches, let alone knowledge and understanding of the NFL rules, it's a problem.
skinsfan69
09-17-2012, 02:14 PM
Who's to blame for the deal not getting done with the regular refs?
Who's to blame for the deal not getting done with the regular refs?
Vinny Cerrato, obviously.
Monkeydad
09-17-2012, 02:19 PM
Vinny Cerrato, obviously.
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