Set it all aside -- Training Camp Begins

In his press conference, I believe Gruden said that they were just letting other players cycle through CB so they could go against the ones. I don't think you are going to see Hall at FS this year in the normal rotations.

N-o-o-o-o-o! Not another rookie corner. I think that DHall could do a good job at FS but if we move him to safety, I think we'll need to trade for a veteran CB. If I were the Redskins GM, I'd even overpay, if necessary, to get another solid vet at CB.

FS - DHall
SS - Phillip Thomas
CB - Solid Vet via Trade
CB - David Amerson

I think I'd feel pretty good about that group.

I'm with you. When you're facing Marshall/Jeffery or some receiving combo like that, you want DHall or an unobtained proven vet at CB for sure, along with Amerson. Tracy Porter is nice as a nickel back but is not who you want all game on someone like Dez Bryant.

I think he has the edge, but that's just my speculation

From Saturday's practice:

Not a good day for Forbath, who hit each upright when attempting field goals later in the day, from 34 and 40 yards. Meanwhile, rookie Zach Hocker hit from 35, 41 and 54 yards – all down the middle. Forbath’s 53-yarder was a low liner; Hocker’s was a deep drive.
Washington Redskins practice report - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/9454/redskins-practice-report-6)



Interesting battle, won't be able to tell until games.. So hard to consider moving on from a kicker who's already in the Hall of Fame (Forbath) for making 17 in a row and leading the league in FG% in 2012 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalPct/year/2012), and making his last 13 FG last year..

But honestly, even the worst FG kickers usually still make 70% of FG, and average for kickers is about 85% (which is around Forbath's average for 2 years). Going from top 10 to just average FG kicking would be about 2-3 FG for the year, or missing 6-9 points total for the year. In contrast we gave up a kick return touchdown last year. Not to mention field position battle is huge for the game. I'd bet if Hocker stays halfway decent, he'd be better for us in the long run.

From Saturday's practice:




Interesting battle, won't be able to tell until games.. So hard to consider moving on from a kicker who's already in the Hall of Fame (Forbath) for making 17 in a row and leading the league in FG% in 2012 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalPct/year/2012), and making his last 13 FG last year..

But honestly, even the worst FG kickers usually still make 70% of FG, and average for kickers is about 85% (which is around Forbath's average for 2 years). Going from top 10 to just average FG kicking would be about 2-3 FG for the year, or missing 6-9 points total for the year. In contrast we gave up a kick return touchdown last year. Not to mention field position battle is huge for the game. I'd bet if Hocker stays halfway decent, he'd be better for us in the long run.

Yea if he can kick it out of the endzone like almost every other NFL team, and is actually a pretty good kicker, I would like to see him get the job.

Crap....I hate playing games with the place kicker position.
Fleabath better get his poop in a group.

In his press conference, I believe Gruden said that they were just letting other players cycle through CB so they could go against the ones. I don't think you are going to see Hall at FS this year in the normal rotations.

This is like the 3rd summer in a row that Hall has seen some snaps at FS

Fan, how does one become a solid vet? If you were the GM, you'd never trust the draft picks that you selected or the vets that you brought in? No way you find a diamond in the rough unless you let them play. Stop with all of the trade for vets BS. Trust the vets that you traded for and the players on the roster!

Exactly. But I doubt we see much of Hall at FS.

Super excited that my friend and I are getting into the VIP section on the 11th. I'm tempted to try and ask Clark and Moss to sign my Sean Taylor shirt.

From Saturday's practice:




Interesting battle, won't be able to tell until games.. So hard to consider moving on from a kicker who's already in the Hall of Fame (Forbath) for making 17 in a row and leading the league in FG% in 2012 (http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/player/_/stat/kicking/sort/fieldGoalPct/year/2012), and making his last 13 FG last year..

But honestly, even the worst FG kickers usually still make 70% of FG, and average for kickers is about 85% (which is around Forbath's average for 2 years). Going from top 10 to just average FG kicking would be about 2-3 FG for the year, or missing 6-9 points total for the year. In contrast we gave up a kick return touchdown last year. Not to mention field position battle is huge for the game. I'd bet if Hocker stays halfway decent, he'd be better for us in the long run.

Think your looking at the wrong %, what was forbath kickoff return rate vs the rest of the league?

We waived our Rice.

Redskins waive injured WR Jerry Rice Jr. (http://www.theredzone.org/BlogDescription/tabid/61/EntryId/43960/Redskins-waive-injured-WR-Jerry-Rice-Jr-/Default.aspx)