Week 1 Positives and Negatives

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MTK
09-09-2014, 10:51 AM
NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.

Lotus
09-09-2014, 11:02 AM
So, now all Skins fans are in favor of abolishing the extra point, am I right??

Actually I'm in favor of getting a kicker who will kick the PAT high enough to clear the line. Watt made a good play but that kick was way low.

WillH
09-09-2014, 11:04 AM
Yeah, I see that too, but I wonder if that takes into account scrambles?


Hard to understand the Chester, Kory and Polumbus rating.

But finally to have some true stats to what I saw from RG3 holding the ball too long. He needs to learn to trust his eyes, read the d properly and make a decisive throw. Passing concepts like "throwing a guy open" "throwing to spots" "throwing before the reciever gets his head around or before coming out his break" need to be incorporated.

NC_Skins
09-09-2014, 11:09 AM
NC_Skins, that's a nice picture of it. My only question (I really don't know) is that from the screen shots Watt is around Polumbus in 1 second and at Griffin's feet, and Griffin is already in a quick throw motion. If it was a quick pass, where Griffin is just supposed to release it within 3 seconds, and Polumbus didn't hold his block for even that second, does that change your opinion. Obviously, I don't have a hand timer, so only looking at the seconds that have elapsed from shot two to shot 3, but that doesn't really change my question. If the QB expects to drop set throw in 3 seconds, should a RT be able to hold a pocket that long?

In that situation, it's more on the QB to avoid the DE by stepping up into the pocket and making the throw. RT/LTs push the edge rushers out and back as far as possible. The interior will solidify the point of attack at the line of scrimmage and this creates that pocket for QBs to work in. It's a small tight window and something I'm sure is hard to perfect.

NC_Skins
09-09-2014, 11:11 AM
Exactly what I was thinking. If it was a quick pass play climbing the pocket makes no sense. If it was a longer developing play ok, of course it makes sense for him to step up.


Looking at the routes being ran, it would appear it was a short pass play.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.

irish
09-09-2014, 11:16 AM
RG3's completion percentage and QB rating are very misleading. His passes werent much more than long handoffs so the stats make it look like his passing had more of an impact on the game than it really did.

I thought the D played well enough to allow the team to win but its going to be difficult to win games when the offense can score.

WillH
09-09-2014, 11:17 AM
Since Griff is 7 yards behind the line of scrimmage, that play was most likely a 7 step drop back, which isn't a quick pass type of situation.

edit: Just noticed it was shotgun formation. Damn.


I We going to say it was shotgun but you beat me to it.

Anyways beside Polombus having no shot of stopping Watt, why is the RB not helping to double team HIM?

KI Skins Fan
09-09-2014, 11:44 AM
I understand why the coaches didn't give more attention to blocking Watt. The Skins even tried to block Watt with a TE one-on-one, as if that was going to work. When Clowney went out of the game, it should have been a no brainer to double-team Watt.

hagams
09-09-2014, 11:44 AM
What impressed me most about this game is JJ Watt. That dude is a freaking monster. I guess that is what a 100 million dollar DL looks like. Thanks again fat Albert.

CRedskinsRule
09-09-2014, 11:53 AM
Looking at the 3 screens again, and remembering the drills that we saw Orakpo and Kerrigan doing where they painted the path to take on the field, it looks like Watt took a perfect path to Griffin. First pic, he is lined up on the hash marks, shaded insided. 2nd pic, he is engaged with Polumbus but still on the hash marks, meaning Polumbus didn't get any push toward the sideline away from Griffin. 3rd pic, he is attacking Griffin at exactly the 7 yd mark and Polumbus is chasing him at that point. Griffin was actually in the pistol, meaning he got the ball and took two steps back, looked left (probably to draw the safety away) then was at the midpoint of his release when Watt got there. Ideally (I think) from pic#2's position, you would either want Watt to be about a yard toward the sideline, a yard deeper than the qb and having to come back toward Griffin.

Good point about the RB, but it looks like he was to release underneath and if so he wouldn't be in a position to get an outside chip.

Polumbus grades high as a run blocker, but the coaches have to know he can't set an edge on any speed rusher. (I don't think Moses or Compton can either :( )

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