Next years QB

Who wants to trade RG3 for Jay Cutler straight up?
If you continue along this line, I will be forced to petition the Jedi Council for your permanent and forcible removal to the.........Drunk Thread

I believe about 3/4ths of that interview. I do believe the part about Snyder enabling Griffin and having him go into the coaches office about plays that are unacceptable. That isn't some shit a coach makes up for no reason. In fact, he was very respectable about Robert in the interview.

The McNabb trade? Not sure I buy that, but SS has said that often times Bruce would come up to somebody and say that "you can do what you like, but Mr. Snyder strongly feels that..." statements. Could it have happened? Probably so, but more likely a piss poor move that blew up in Mike's face. The one thing that makes me believe Mike more than Dan is Mike's history with trading. When you look back, he didn't give up a bunch of picks for players. It wasn't his thing, and for it all of a sudden to start at the Skins? I do believe Dan was so enamored with Griff that he and Bruce talked Mike into that disaster of a trade.

Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not

Bingo.

Mike Shanahan did his share in continuing to f*ck this franchise over. Can't believe some people here believe everything he says or act like he's a f*cking victim. He can go to hell for all I care.

Both Shanahan and Snyder were to blame for the mess during Mikey's reign. At first I laid it all at Shanny's feet but Danny continued to meddle, undermining his coach.

Ultimately we will never know who holds most of the responsibility but a muck up that big no one person can cause. It takes a lot of raging egos.

Calling it today, RG3 comeback Player of the yr

If your serious I'm riding with you.

I am. I still believe in him and I think he's hungry

I'm with you he's starving.

Yeah, it's often not Bruce that says that. It's other in the organization. Others who are team execs, but not really football execs. Would probably be easier to take if the (then) GM was saying that

As for the McNabb deal what I'd always heard and believe mentioned is that Bruce got wind of the opportunity to acquire McNabb (I think during the combines) approached both Snyder and Shanahan about it. Snyder loved the idea and Mike Shanahan did not. Kyle especially did not

Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.

Thank you for that. It's nice to know, in a sad way, that Bruce was responsible for the McNabb debacle.

Pretty evident Shanny was right; owner, gm, Qb and coach not on the same pages...its called dysfunction folks

Looks like Shanny's redemption tour is working as a lot of people are eating up everything he's saying.

Must be nice not to take responsibility over anything, just point the finger, and have everyone believe you. :doh:

I think it's fantastic that Gruden got in front of this thing and named RGIII starter right away. That way, there is no offseason distractions. Let RGIII know that the ball is in his court, and he's the man. Allow him to rise above or implode in preseason.

And yes, could be a smoke screen to up his value in case there is a trading partner.