Next years QB

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SolidSnake84
02-23-2015, 06:55 PM
Honestly, if that happens, I really do think that could be the last straw for a significant portion of the fan base. Folks believe that given Scot's track record, he's the best move we've made in a long, long time, and someone who really has the potential to get the franschise on track. If he's not afforded that chance because of meddling or other stupidity, I am sure some will conclude -- myself among them -- that the franchise is simply never going to win with Snyder as owner. And since he's my age and doesn't seem like the guy who will ever sell the team, there's basically little reason for hope in the future. At that point, I will think about another team -- sad for me, as I have been a fan since the mid-1970s.

This is a great post, but i think i speak for most when i say that many have already concluded that we will never win with Snyder as owner.

rocnrik
02-23-2015, 07:13 PM
I will say for sure ..IF with this current line up ( front office) ..if within 2 years we are not posting winning records..then all is lost with Snyder..This surrounding cast is far and away the best the REDSKINS have had since GIBBS FIRST JOB..I say lets all give it a chance and maybe we can go 8-8 next year ..but the year after I am looking at playoffs..we will see.

calia
02-23-2015, 08:22 PM
This is a great post, but i think i speak for most when i say that many have already concluded that we will never win with Snyder as owner.

What's so frustrating is that it ought to be relatively easy to avoid this conclusion -- just stay out of the way and let football people run the show. I am fine with Allen on contracts and McCloughan as the GM -- they ought to be able to bring in and retain sufficient talent to turn things around. Just let 'em, Danny. I beg you.

MTK
02-24-2015, 07:58 PM
Finally someone says it

Mike Shanahan continues to blame everyone but himself for his failure with the Redskins - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/dc-sports-bog/wp/2015/02/23/mike-shanahan-continues-to-blame-everyone-but-himself-for-his-failure-with-the-redskins/)

And

Plenty of Blame to Go Around, But Shanny Is Taking Almost None of It | Czabe.com (http://www.theczabe.com/the-post/plenty-blame-go-around-shanny-taking-almost-none/)

FRPLG
02-24-2015, 10:00 PM
Everyone needs to try and vividly remember the chaos that Shanny created in 2013. Plenty of blame can be spread but Shanny is as guilty or more than anyone.

Hog1
02-24-2015, 10:23 PM
Oh Please!
There.......must be some way to twist this back into Dan's wheelhouse?
It's the Burgundy and Gold tradition....

DYoungJelly
04-15-2015, 01:58 PM
A really interesting monologue by Keim where he tosses out some passer rating and sack statistics as they relate to time in the pocket and talks about the possibility of committing to Griffin this year with upgrades in the line, TEs and backs:

How to make Robert Griffin III a pocket passer - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16602/how-to-make-rg-iii-a-pocket-passer)

The jist is that Griffin had a passer rating of about 70 when he had 2.5 seconds or more. He says that more time doesn't necessarily equate to being more effective.

He also said that 21 of his 33 sacks came after 2.5 seconds or more.

There was some passionate discussion a few weeks ago comparing sack rates, passer rating, and interceptions between Griffin and Cousins.

The sack stat, I believe is a lot more concerning than the passer rating with Griffin's tendency to get hurt badly.

I'm really curious about the "why" on both.

I'm guessing there weren't a ton of 7 step drops called last year. I wonder how many were broken plays.

Thoughts?

30gut
04-15-2015, 05:16 PM
A really interesting monologue by Keim where he tosses out some passer rating and sack statistics as they relate to time in the pocket and talks about the possibility of committing to Griffin this year with upgrades in the line, TEs and backs:

How to make Robert Griffin III a pocket passer - Washington Redskins Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/washington-redskins/post/_/id/16602/how-to-make-rg-iii-a-pocket-passer)

The jist is that Griffin had a passer rating of about 70 when he had 2.5 seconds or more. He says that more time doesn't necessarily equate to being more effective.....

I'm really curious about the "why" on both.

I'm guessing there weren't a ton of 7 step drops called last year. I wonder how many were broken plays.

Thoughts?GP and thanks for passing along the article.

Awhile back I looked into some of the advance metric numbers from PFF and Football Outsiders for our QB group from last year (Rob, Kirk and Colt).

And it tough to boil everything down into a quick sound bite like Keim had in the above article. BUT he's right about the pass protection especially form the TEs and RBs which was terrible.

On the point about Griffin's passer rating 69 (PFF has it at 66 ftr) with 2.5s he's right but it doesn't mean that Griffin neccesarily "struggles" when he has more time. Just for comparison sake Kirk passer rating with 2.5s + is 62 and Colt McCoy is 106.
I think these numbers could be indicative of what happens with our QBs after the initial progression doesn't show open more then how they respond to having more time as Keim said. I think breakdown by time +/- 2.5s shows why Jay likes Colt; the stats seem to indicate Colt is far more productive passer after the first progression and/or when the play breaks down.

On the sacks....Colt actually has the highest sack rate (3.5) in the +2.5s time frame (although only by a hair over Griffin) Kirk had the lowest sack rate

I think this topic could warrant its on thread but...I missed the thread with the previous discussion that I missed and don't want to start another.

Cheers

JoeRedskin
04-15-2015, 06:23 PM
^ Nice analysis.

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DYoungJelly
04-15-2015, 06:23 PM
GP and thanks for passing along the article.

Awhile back I looked into some of the advance metric numbers from PFF and Football Outsiders for our QB group from last year (Rob, Kirk and Colt).

And it tough to boil everything down into a quick sound bite like Keim had in the above article. BUT he's right about the pass protection especially form the TEs and RBs which was terrible.

On the point about Griffin's passer rating 69 (PFF has it at 66 ftr) with 2.5s he's right but it doesn't mean that Griffin neccesarily "struggles" when he has more time. Just for comparison sake Kirk passer rating with 2.5s + is 62 and Colt McCoy is 106.
I think these numbers could be indicative of what happens with our QBs after the initial progression doesn't show open more then how they respond to having more time as Keim said. I think breakdown by time +/- 2.5s shows why Jay likes Colt; the stats seem to indicate Colt is far more productive passer after the first progression and/or when the play breaks down.

On the sacks....Colt actually has the highest sack rate (3.5) in the +2.5s time frame (although only by a hair over Griffin) Kirk had the lowest sack rate

I think this topic could warrant its on thread but...I missed the thread with the previous discussion that I missed and don't want to start another.

Cheers

Very cool.

What was Cousins' sack rate after 2.5 seconds?

Based on what you observed from the advanced metrics, do you see any situational patterns on Cousins' interceptions?

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